Re: Re: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

Ron Jeffries wrote:


> On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 9:17:17 PM, Bill Walton wrote:
>
> > Hate them?  What an odd
> > conclusion for you to come to.
>
> You don't like how programmers talk, you don't like the fact that they
refer to
> people who USE their software as users, you don't like the way they dress
and
> accuse them of disdain because of it, you accuse them of being dirty. You
damn
> programmers as a class, painting with a broad brush indeed.

I wasn't making judgements.  I was recounting experiences, some my own, some
told to me by others, about the kinds of experiences that caused friction /
culture class between IT groups and business-side groups back in the '80's

> What conclusion would you suggest we draw? An attitude of mutual respect
doesn't
> seem quite right, does it?

You seem to be the only one having this problem with what I related to Dale
at his request.  It also seems that you are not listening to my explanations
as I try to correct what I presume is honest misunderstanding.


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