RE: Re: Responsibility

"Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:59:48 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Glen,

> One place to start is APM's site http://www.apm.org.uk/apm/evsig.htm.
> 
> I have a resouce list but it is likely too confusing on first look, 
> http://www.niwotridge.com/Resources/DomainLinks/EarnedValue.htm.
> 
> If you look at the bottom of the above page, any link with "guide" is 
> probably at starting place.

Thanks for the links. I'll be reading for a while I guess.

> > Well, why not use usual business planning process?  When I have to 
> justify
> > financial investment, I project a cash flow and calculate NPV.  
> That's what
> > I may do for waterflow project.  In Agile project I may apply 
> options
> > analysis.  
> 
> The short answer to the above is that in traditional project 
> management that comparisions of planned versus actual (BCWS - ACWP) 
> produces an expendature variance, but does not state how much real 
> progress was performed.

"Traditional" covers a lot of ground. In past projects (70s) I budgeted
cost and scheduled work completion by month. I reported actual expenditure
versus budget, actual work complete against plan and the ratio of the
two - I believe we made up a name for the ratio, but I can't recall it.

Of course, none of this measured anything except our adherance to plan.
We could be right on schedule and still have the whole thing turn out
to be a waste of time. :-)

> IN EVMS two variances are measured: Planned versus Value and Actaul 
> versus Value. The term "value" (Budgeted Cost for Work Performed) 
> actually orginiated in the late 1800's in the shop floor 
> manufacturing world. 
> 
> Again these appear to be arcane terms for those new to the management 
> process, just as "velocity" may be for those new to XP. Bit, XP 
> processes are tightly coupled to EVMS and several papers in the 
> second list above discuss this connection.

Has anyone tried to match the XP notion of value to EVMS? What I mean
by this is if we have completed some set of stories at some cost, do
you differentiate the result from some other set of stories at the
same cost, but having less [xp] value? Or less value in the real
world? [costs avoided, lives saved, etc.]

This seems as if it would be pretty hard to do - and maybe not worth
the effort. Or maybe outside the scope of IT - except that I seem
to remember who got blamed when well-done projects didn't actually
produce the hoped-for end results.

Charlie Poole
[email protected]
www.pooleconsulting.com
www.charliepoole.org




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