Re: Re: Design vs. Manufacturing

Rick Mugridge <r.mugridge-1/[email protected]> Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:00:25 +1300
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Hi Bill,

Yes, I've read them both.  As I remember, /The Design Factory/ covers 
that argument much more explicitly.  

I reckon that the idea that software development is akin to 
manufacturing has had a really bad influence on our models of software 
development (traditional Software Engineering is full of this notion, 
where programming is a minor element).  BX (before XP) books on software 
development throw up this model all over.  I suspect that the whole idea 
of software as manufacturing will be seen in retrospect as a massive 
dead-end. Perhaps just as the middle ages torture of suspects to 
determine guilt ended up being rejected from most justice systems after 
centuries of considerable refinement by specialists.

Cheers, Rick

> *From:*  "Bill Walton" <[email protected] 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extremecustomering/post?protectID=014176235078035086169181031024006165108222149009043027152006048067>>
> *Date:*  Mon Jan 27, 2003  12:41 pm
> *Subject:*  Re: [XC] Re: Design vs. Manufacturing

> Hi Rick,
>
> I've heard of both books, but didn't realize they addressed software 
> too. I
> assume you've read them so I'll ask... do either (or both) make the
> argument that software development is a design / development activity 
> rather
> than a manufacturing activity? If so, that's the one I'd like to read
> first. Thanks for the help.
>
> Best regards,
> Bill



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Hi Bill,<br>
<br>
Yes, I've read them both. &nbsp;As I remember, /The Design Factory/ covers
that argument much more explicitly. &nbsp;<br>
<br>
I reckon that the idea that software development is akin to
manufacturing has had a really bad influence on our models of software
development (traditional Software Engineering is full of this notion,
where programming is a minor element). &nbsp;BX (before XP) books on
software development throw up this model all over. &nbsp;I suspect that the
whole idea of software as manufacturing will be seen in retrospect as a
massive dead-end. Perhaps just as the middle ages torture of suspects
to determine guilt ended up being rejected from most justice systems
after centuries of considerable refinement by specialists.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Rick<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><font><b>From:</b>&nbsp;       "Bill Walton" &lt;<a
 href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extremecustomering/post?protectID=014176235078035086169181031024006165108222149009043027152006048067">[email protected]</a>&gt;</font><br>
  <font size="+0"><b>Date:</b>&nbsp; Mon&nbsp;Jan&nbsp;27,&nbsp;2003&nbsp; 12:41 pm</font><br>
  <font size="+0"><b>Subject:</b>&nbsp; Re: [XC] Re: Design vs. Manufacturing</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><tt> Hi Rick,<br>
  <br>
I've heard of both books, but didn't realize they addressed software
too.  I<br>
assume you've read them so I'll ask...  do either (or both) make the<br>
argument that software development is a design / development activity
rather<br>
than a manufacturing activity?  If so, that's the one I'd like to read<br>
first.  Thanks for the help.<br>
  <br>
Best regards,<br>
Bill</tt></blockquote>
<br>

<br>



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