Re: Move from Tradition to XP - Jan 17th

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 12:10:26 PM, Sandy wrote:

>> Ron Jeffries  wrote:
>> Why do they want to do detailed design documents? >
> Why do they imagine that doing XP would make them
> stop?

> I should qualify "design documents". Their view of a
> design doc is low level, implementation detail design.
> Way beyond stories or a classic "requirements
> document". They historically used this time as a
> catch-all for things like prototyping, new technology
> research, etc. but always had a difficult time to
> justify that sort of work in the schedule. It took
> some "double loop" NLP to pull that out of them.
> Interesting.

Yes. Now what is it that they /really/ value, that they're doing with that
time?

> I believe they view XP's concept of "design enough" as
> "don't design, just start coding". I'm trying to give
> the analogy of the huddle in football. Quickly call a
> play in order to give everyone simple instructions and
> execute. Revise the plan on the next huddle. Don't try
> for the hail-mary on your own 20 yard line. [[insert
> your football analogy here]]

"Design enough"? I think it's "Design all the f5g time, not just on
Monday". ;->

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Tough life is. Then die you do. --Yoda (personal communication)


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