RE: Re: Do C-Level managers, and business drivers really need to know about XP?
"Alleman, Glen B." <[email protected]> Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:23:51 -0700
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Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Ropa [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and business drivers > really need to know about XP? > > Hi Glen, > > I think I'll take a stab at some of these questions: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alleman, Glen B. > > From Steve's comments, > > > > So from your experiences of being "groomed" how would a > > leader emerge in > > the absence of this grooming? > > > > The concept of "emergent" leadership is interesting IIF there > > is such a > > leader in the group. The other unanswered question is what is the time > > scale for this emergence? Is this timescale alterable by external > > processes? Grooming prior to need? > > > > The conjecture that emergent leadership actually works needs some > > discussion. > > > > (1) Is there a difference here between emergent leaders and > > leadership? > > Do self emergent leaders already have the leadership skills > > to lead and > > therefore emerge in the absence of an imposed leader? > > > Self emergent leaders already have the skills to lead, but not necessarily > the tools. One of the most important tools for leadership is experience. > I believe that if there is the rare self-emergent leader in the group, she > will emerge with or without an imposed leader. There is not necessarily > always such an individual in any given group, though. > > > (2) What processes are in place for this leadership to behave in > > accordance with the higher needs of the organization? > > In an XP framework, I would say that the practices coupled with a really > strong emphasis on the values creates a good start. How one ensures that > they are living up to this is really best evaluated case by case. [>] Agree and one powers agile claims is to define the outcomes. Turns out this is a goal of any good management process. But what's important about agile is the adaptive definition of the outcome and "done." This removes the sticky problem of seeking a solution to the wrong problem - a Type III error. > > > > (3) At what scale does this emergent leadership work? Small group of > > self directed teams? There is lots of literature on the software > > development world on this approach? Large groups - say departments? > > Where is the cut off - if any - on group size for self > > emergent leader? > I don't know that its necessarily a cut off kind of situation. The > emergent leadership can work on the smaller groups of teams, at which > point we have a nice set of candidates for the department heads. Once you > get into the larger organizations, there are actual "B-School" issues that > need to be addressed, and they are not instinctive. For instance, it is > sometimes disconcerting how many times I have to explain to folks around > here what the difference between utilization and realization is, and why > it matters. [>] So to continue the question - at what level does the self emergent leader not have sufficient skills? > > > > (4) In the discussion here of leadership are we speaking in > > terms found > > in business - say the HBR series on leadership - or in anecdotal terms > > from within a small group? > > > Here is where my toolset is incomplete. What is the HBR series on > leadership? From my standpoint, I am talking about leadership in groups > of 5-50, sometimes broken into smaller teams, sometimes not. [>] Harvard Business Press "HBR on Leadership," is one of a half-dozen or so books that capture classic papers from HBR of various topics. The leadership book has seminal works on large and small group leadership. Several other "must read" texts include "On Becoming a leader," Warren Bennis and "True Professionals," David H. Maister. Another book we live by is "The Wisdom of Teams," Jon Katzenbach and Doug Smith. What has dawned on me in this thread is the separation of "leading" from the skill of "leadership." I not sure I would concur that all teams contain self emergent leaders with the skills - that certainly isn't the case here. There are lots of "wanna be" leaders, but their technical skills soon run out of gas when confronted with non-technical process leadership problems. So maybe one clarifying point is to separate the leadership of the technical aspects of a team from the business process aspects. Just had a team member come to my office asking a personnel issue about paid time off. If left to the leader of his team, it would have been a mess, but fortunately the team lead knew enough not to answer the request - self emergent denial of capability ;>) Glen B. Alleman ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FpY02D/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/nhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/