Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

"Douglas Waugh" <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Nov 2019 08:43:31 +0000
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Alex,

I’d be interested in your opinion of what makes a very good stand up and what makes a harmful one.

Would you be able to give us a few pointers?  What is the main value you see the stand up providing?

Douglas


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I still believe they are valuable for „teams“ who don’t talk to each other for weeks, and as always I have seen some very good implementations over the years.

Of cause there are also a lot of harmful implementations but I think the value of the good ones outweigh the value of the bad ones.


Am 13.11.2019 um 23:53 schrieb John Carter via Groups.Io <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

It's one of those things that  seem to have gone horribly horribly wrong out in the wild.....

Way back when, when I still believed standups  to be a Good Idea, people came together, and didn't bother to sit because it was going to be so short.

They said, mostly by pointing at/moving the sticky on the board what they were working on, and if they were stuck, asked for help. (Which wasn't given in the standup)

Done.

Back to work.

2 minutes max, all done.

Sigh!


On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:53 AM George Paci <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
All,

Glad to see this group getting saved from oblivion: thanks, Joe!

An interesting question came up at work today: where did the term
"standup" originate?

I've found a reference from Jeff Sutherland explaining the origins of
the meeting (and the practice of standing up), but he doesn't explicitly
claim to have invented the name:

https://www.scruminc.com/origins-daily-standup/

I see it mentioned on Don Wells's XP site with a 1999 copyright, but I'm
not sure that's an accurate date:

http://www.extremeprogramming.org/rules/standupmeeting.html

(and he keeps them as two words: "Stand Up").

I figure Laurent would know this off the top of his head.... :-)

—George Paci

   Doing Agile since (a month) before it was called Agile







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