Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

"Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io" <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Nov 2019 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC)
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I know people feel it’s Very Important Indeed that the meeting not be longer than 15 minutes.I don’t agree.
I think it’s very important that people aren’t held hostage in a horrible meeting that doesn’t concern them. If the meeting is not engaging, useful, valuable, then it should be much shorter than 15 minutes.
If it is valuable, important, useful, then stopping it after 15 minutes is counter to “delivering value” and is in fact “preventing value delivery.” 
It needs to be short because it’s not valuable to everybody, but we have to hold it becuase it’s really valuable and important: feels like cognitive dissonance to me. 
Status meetings should take nearly 0 seconds. Work planning should take as long as necessary to build a great day.
:shrug:

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On Monday, November 18, 2019, 2:28 PM, George Paci <[email protected]> wrote:


On 11/18/19 12:09 PM, Steve Gordon wrote:
> Brevity requires that people are providing just enough info to clue 
> the rest of the team if they need help (whether they actually know 
> they need help or not), but the help must NOT be received during the 
> standup.  I like to reserve optional time after the standup where 
> people can sit and discuss anything that came up in order to make it 
> clear that the standup itself is not for discussion.

I use what I call the "Two Minute Rule": a technical discussion or 
helpful infodump can take place in the Standup—as long as it takes no 
more than two minutes. If we think it'll go over that, or if it hits the 
two-minute limit, defer it to a later conversation.

Deferring to a later conversation involves writing a brief indicator of 
the topic on the board, along with everyone who should be / wants to be 
involved. Usually these discussions can take place right after the 
standup; occasionally, the same person needs to be in two or more, or 
somebody essential has to run. Something about (even informally) writing 
it on the board seems to ensure the discussions actually happen.

—George

   If you're having trouble managing something, consider eliminating it 
instead.









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