Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

"Steve Gordon" <[email protected]> Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:05:42 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming
Message-ID <CAF7qo6UOhFNmvBzOPMb0kGJ2FMeqdQ4Nq5J0mbD4JP7wXsg_4g@mail.gmail.com>
In Scrum, the primary planning takes place in the sprint planning meeting
at the beginning of each sprint.  Replanning would largely be tactical and
reactive during the sprint due to unexpected events.

Where the daily plan interacts with the big picture is usually when
designing the solution for a specific user story, taking into account what
code already exists that can be reused (which may require some refactoring
or even refactoring into a design pattern).  Sometimes a pair may not be
aware of everything in the code base that could be potentially reused, so
this is where either mob programming or others becoming aware of what the
pair is going to do during the upcoming day comes into play.

Unfortunately, many teams confuse this with anticipating what the design
should be in light of near future user stories.  YAGNI is lost on many
Scrum teams.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:51 AM Dave Nicolette <[email protected]>
wrote:

> OK, that's closer to what I thought it was for. In any case, mobbing
> is not a substitute for Everything Else. It seems to be useful for (a)
> keeping everyone aligned in the small, (b) knowledge-sharing among
> team members, (c) keeping WIP to a minimum. If you haven't heard
> proponents talking about mid-term and long-term planning in the
> context of mobbing, it's probably because those things are out of
> scope for the narrow topic of mobbing, and not because they don't
> understand the value of those things. That's my guess, anyway.
>
> On 11/22/19, Ron Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It was initially for ensuring you're on track to make the Sprint Goal,
> which
> > is a larger goal than the daily grind. I've not seen much from the
> mobbing
> > center about longer term planning, it's as if mobbing solves everything.
> > More a matter of discursive style than actual claims, I freely grant.
> >
> > R
> >
> > sent from iPad, probably via Mars. Errors, if any, are not mine.
> > [email protected] is a better address for me, maybe.
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Dave Nicolette <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, one does those. I must have misunderstood the purpose of the daily
> >> standup. Didn't know it was for big-picture stuff. My bad.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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>

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