Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?
"George Dinwiddie" <[email protected]> Sat, 23 Nov 2019 11:44:21 -0500
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It's my observation from watching small groups of people working together that it's almost universally common that some people will take charge and direct the common effort and others will get quiet, abdicating any such role. It's also my observation that, even in a small team working together daily, people notice different things, interpret the things they notice differently, and assign different significance to those interpretations. People often think that because they are immersed in a common experience that there's no need to talk about it. This appears to not be so. Groups of technically oriented people often want to optimize the work process to those activities needed for the technically oriented output, and overlook those that are focused on the needs of humans and groups of humans working together. Yes, you can have a standup and not get any value from it. You can also not have a standup and avoid providing a convenient mechanism for taking advantage of the differences in observation, interpretation, and significance made by the entire team. If you've got a really good team facilitator, they'll likely notice this and help bring it out. If they're really excellent, they'll convince the team to work in a fashion where it can more easily come out without them acting as a middleman to make it happen. They might use a simple technique such as a daily standup to create such an opportunity. - George On 11/22/19 10:50 AM, Dave Nicolette wrote: > OK, that's closer to what I thought it was for. In any case, mobbing > is not a substitute for Everything Else. It seems to be useful for (a) > keeping everyone aligned in the small, (b) knowledge-sharing among > team members, (c) keeping WIP to a minimum. If you haven't heard > proponents talking about mid-term and long-term planning in the > context of mobbing, it's probably because those things are out of > scope for the narrow topic of mobbing, and not because they don't > understand the value of those things. That's my guess, anyway. > > On 11/22/19, Ron Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote: >> It was initially for ensuring you're on track to make the Sprint Goal, which >> is a larger goal than the daily grind. I've not seen much from the mobbing >> center about longer term planning, it's as if mobbing solves everything. >> More a matter of discursive style than actual claims, I freely grant. >> >> R >> >> sent from iPad, probably via Mars. Errors, if any, are not mine. >> [email protected] is a better address for me, maybe. >> >>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Dave Nicolette <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, one does those. I must have misunderstood the purpose of the daily >>> standup. Didn't know it was for big-picture stuff. My bad. >> >> >> >> > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Development http://www.idiacomputing.com Consultant and Coach ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160309): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/message/160309 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/56090734/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-