Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

George,

Great observations and food for thought. Thanks!

Dave

On 11/23/19, George Dinwiddie <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's my observation from watching small groups of people working
> together that it's almost universally common that some people will take
> charge and direct the common effort and others will get quiet,
> abdicating any such role.
>
> It's also my observation that, even in a small team working together
> daily, people notice different things, interpret the things they notice
> differently, and assign different significance to those interpretations.
> People often think that because they are immersed in a common experience
> that there's no need to talk about it. This appears to not be so.
>
> Groups of technically oriented people often want to optimize the work
> process to those activities needed for the technically oriented output,
> and overlook those that are focused on the needs of humans and groups of
> humans working together. Yes, you can have a standup and not get any
> value from it. You can also not have a standup and avoid providing a
> convenient mechanism for taking advantage of the differences in
> observation, interpretation, and significance made by the entire team.
>
> If you've got a really good team facilitator, they'll likely notice this
> and help bring it out. If they're really excellent, they'll convince the
> team to work in a fashion where it can more easily come out without them
> acting as a middleman to make it happen. They might use a simple
> technique such as a daily standup to create such an opportunity.
>
>   -  George
>
> On 11/22/19 10:50 AM, Dave Nicolette wrote:
>> OK, that's closer to what I thought it was for. In any case, mobbing
>> is not a substitute for Everything Else. It seems to be useful for (a)
>> keeping everyone aligned in the small, (b) knowledge-sharing among
>> team members, (c) keeping WIP to a minimum. If you haven't heard
>> proponents talking about mid-term and long-term planning in the
>> context of mobbing, it's probably because those things are out of
>> scope for the narrow topic of mobbing, and not because they don't
>> understand the value of those things. That's my guess, anyway.
>>
>> On 11/22/19, Ron Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It was initially for ensuring you're on track to make the Sprint Goal,
>>> which
>>> is a larger goal than the daily grind. I've not seen much from the
>>> mobbing
>>> center about longer term planning, it's as if mobbing solves everything.
>>> More a matter of discursive style than actual claims, I freely grant.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> sent from iPad, probably via Mars. Errors, if any, are not mine.
>>> [email protected] is a better address for me, maybe.
>>>
>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Dave Nicolette <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, one does those. I must have misunderstood the purpose of the daily
>>>> standup. Didn't know it was for big-picture stuff. My bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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