Re: [extremeprogramming] Practices [was: Origin of term "standup"?]
"Ron Jeffries" <[email protected]> Sun, 24 Nov 2019 13:00:24 -0500
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Hi John, > On Nov 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, John Maxwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > In all seriousness. The last sentence I quoted defines my working > environment; I am a _developer_, not a coach, and I have never had the > luxury of having any coach, good, bad, or indifferent, available on any > team or "team" that I've worked on. Yes ... which is why my note you quoted was against advocating against good and valuable practices. > > The received wisdom (from when I've asked this question before, on this > list) seems to be that I must not advocate for any practices, because > as an experienced and senior developer, any advocacy on my part is far > too likely to be felt as coercion by other team members. I don't think I've seen that. I am exceedingly opposed to coercion, but that just means that advocating for things needs to be done with a bit of style, gentleness, curiousity ... things I'm at best only slightly good at. > > Since I am not, in fact, the ideal coach, who can change the team's work > habits with a gesture and perhaps a suitably insightful head tilt, am I > reduced to simply keeping my mouth shut and hoping for the best? What > happened to "Change your work environment, or change your work > environment."? Of course you're supposed to work to change the environment, just exactly as any coach would. I am wondering who suggested otherwise, and what they really meant. I have a feeling that you may have misread something ... Ron Jeffries ronjeffries.com <http://ronjeffries.com/> Wisdom begins when we learn the difference between "that makes no sense" and "I don't understand". -- Mary Doria Russell -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160333): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/message/160333 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/61878503/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-