Re: [extremeprogramming] What has changed for you over the past 20 years?
"Slava Imeshev via Groups.Io" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:08:34 -0800
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--Apple-Mail=_DE0CD701-F1E2-424B-94A4-87CD44C309E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It=E2=80=99s a basic question. Checks if they can code and test / TDD. Slava > On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:17 AM, Dave Nicolette <[email protected]> wr= ote: >=20 > Why would you ask something like that in an interview? >=20 > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 13:55 Ron Jeffries <[email protected] <mail= to:[email protected]>> wrote: > I would fail the quiz. I don't understand the question. >=20 >> On Dec 10, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Slava Imeshev via Groups.Io <imeshev=3Dya= [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>=20 >> Yes! I often ask to write Integer.toString(int) during interviews, star= ting with a test. Usually, the responses are: >>=20 >> * Huh? >> * Hmm... >> * That=E2=80=99s easy! >=20 >=20 > Ron Jeffries > ronjeffries.com <http://ronjeffries.com/> > Impossible is not a fact. It is an opinion. -- Muhammad Ali >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160493): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160493 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/61983806= 5/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --Apple-Mail=_DE0CD701-F1E2-424B-94A4-87CD44C309E6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s a ba= sic question. Checks if they can code and test / TDD.<div class=3D""><br cl= ass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Slava</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><d= iv><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 10, 2019, at= 5:17 AM, Dave Nicolette <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" cla= ss=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-inte= rchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Why would you= ask something like that in an interview?</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D= "gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1= 3:55 Ron Jeffries <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"= ">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote c= lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;= padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white= -space" class=3D"">I would fail the quiz. I don't understand the question.<= br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" clas= s=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 10, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Slava Imeshev via Grou= ps.Io <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= " rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote= :</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;fo= nt-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;= letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;= white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display= :inline!important" class=3D"">Yes! I often ask to write Integer.toString(in= t) during interviews, starting with a test. Usually, the responses are:</sp= an><div style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-= variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:sta= rt;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;= text-decoration:none" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-fa= mily:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font= -weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-= transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" cl= ass=3D"">* Huh?</div><div style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-= style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:nor= mal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal= ;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">* Hmm...</div><div style= = =3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps= :normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde= nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat= ion:none" class=3D"">* That=E2=80=99s easy!</div></div></blockquote></div><= br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;= text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: b= reak-word;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-style: no= rmal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-v= ariant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates:= normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spaci= ng: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px= ; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-family= :Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-= spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;t= ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px" = class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><span style=3D"= border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font= -variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-cap= s: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; f= ont-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal= ; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-tra= nsform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px;"= class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ron Jeffries</div><a href=3D"htt= p://ronjeffries.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">ronje= ffries.com</a></span></div><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D""><= span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px" class=3D""><span= style=3D"border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: no= rmal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-v= ariant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates:= normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spaci= ng: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px= ; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; border-spac= ing: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Impossible is not a fact. It is an op= inion. -- Muhammad Ali</div></span><br class=3D""></span><br class=3D= ""></div></span></div></div> </div> <br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder= "></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></bloc= kquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160493">View/Reply Online (#160493)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= = =3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20changed%20for%20y= ou%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DPriv= ate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20changed%20for%= 20you%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/post">New Topic</a><br= > <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/editsub/2417047">Your Su= bscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner<= /a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/= xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --Apple-Mail=_DE0CD701-F1E2-424B-94A4-87CD44C309E6--