Re: [extremeprogramming] What has changed for you over the past 20 years?
"JeffGrigg" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Dec 2019 20:25:17 -0600
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--0000000000009b7e7205996457cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep. And do they understand boundary conditions? IE: Do they *TEST* them? On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:08 PM Slava Imeshev via Groups.Io <imeshev=3D [email protected]> wrote: > It=E2=80=99s a basic question. Checks if they can code and test / TDD. > > Slava > > On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:17 AM, Dave Nicolette <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Why would you ask something like that in an interview? > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 13:55 Ron Jeffries <[email protected]> wrot= e: > >> I would fail the quiz. I don't understand the question. >> >> On Dec 10, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Slava Imeshev via Groups.Io < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes! I often ask to write Integer.toString(int) during interviews, >> starting with a test. Usually, the responses are: >> >> * Huh? >> * Hmm... >> * That=E2=80=99s easy! >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> ronjeffries.com >> Impossible is not a fact. It is an opinion. -- Muhammad Ali >> >> >> >> >> >> >=20 > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160494): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160494 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/61983806= 5/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --0000000000009b7e7205996457cc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Yep.<div><br></div><div>And do they understand boundary=C2= = =A0conditions?</div><div><br></div><div>IE: Do they *TEST* them?</div><div= ><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"= ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:08 PM Slava Imeshev vi= a Groups.Io <imeshev=3D<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">yahoo.com@= groups.io</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin= g-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">It=E2=80=99s a basic = question. Checks if they can code and test / TDD.<div><br></div><div>Slava<= /div><div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:17 = AM, Dave Nicolette <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D= "_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"a= uto">Why would you ask something like that in an interview?</div><br><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 10, = 2019, 13:55 Ron Jeffries <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta= rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot= e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s= olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-= word;">I would fail the quiz. I don't understand the question.<br><div>= <br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Dec 10, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Slava Imes= hev via Groups.Io <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wr= ote:</div><br><div><span style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-s= tyle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norm= al;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;= word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Yes! I oft= en ask to write Integer.toString(int) during interviews, starting with a te= st. Usually, the responses are:</span><div style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;fon= t-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;l= etter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w= hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div sty= le=3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-cap= s:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-ind= ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decora= tion:none">* Huh?</div><div style=3D"font-family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;fon= t-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n= ormal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm= al;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">* Hmm...</div><div style=3D"font-= family:ArialMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo= nt-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;tex= t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">= * That=E2=80=99s easy!</div></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <div style=3D"letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-= transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"font-fami= ly:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;lette= r-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px= ;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"bo= rder-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant= :normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-al= ign:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor= d-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"= ><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:n= ormal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-hei= ght:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit= e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div><br>Ron Jeffries</= div><a href=3D"http://ronjeffries.com/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank= ">ronjeffries.com</a></span></div><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"= ><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style=3D= "border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-vari= ant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text= -align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;= word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div>Impossible is not a fact. It is a= n opinion. =C2=A0-- Muhammad Ali</div></span><br></span><br></div></span></= div></div> </div> <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div> <p></p><p></p></blockquote></div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/messag= e/160494">View/Reply Online (#160494)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= = =3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20changed%20for%20y= ou%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subje= ct=3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bextremeprogramming%5D%20What%20has%20chang= ed%20for%20you%20over%20the%20past%2020%20years%3F">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/39418691/2417047">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/post">New Topic</a><br= > <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/editsub/2417047">Your Su= bscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner<= /a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/= xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --0000000000009b7e7205996457cc--