Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering
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I'm in Silicon Valley.
On Monday, December 16, 2019, 3:57:14 PM PST, George Paci <gpaci@tiac.=
net> wrote:
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From the replies, it looks like we can do this in three locations:
=C2=A0 * Washington, DC
=C2=A0 * London
=C2=A0 * Lisbon
While it would be cool to try to do them all on the same day and=20
videoconference or something, it might make more sense to run one, then=20
incorporate lessons learned into the others.
I suggest discussing the format in this thread, and scheduling for=20
individual locations in their own threads.
** Format:
Todd brought up Open Space, and I think at least part of the day should=20
have that kind of participant-directedness.
Todd also mentioned that he has some interactive workshops, which is the=
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kind of thing I was thinking of.=C2=A0 In particular, I would like most of=
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the time to either be hands-on (coding, integrating, deploying, etc.) or=
=20
reflecting directly on what we learned from hands-on activity or how we=20
can improve it.
I also want us to share our Best Tricks (either coding, or coaching, or=20
otherwise).
** Programming content:
Steve mentioned The Dude's Code Jams, and giving something to the=20
community. My present company has a couple existing projects for=20
not-for-profits that might benefit from contributors; I'll ask about=20
that.=C2=A0 Bob Payne is local to DC, and I know he's connected to some=20
not-for-profit projects, as is George[1].
If we're thinking about the programming or XP community, I don't think=20
there's any dearth of ideas for smallish applications that would improve=
=20
things. (Maybe that deserves a thread of its own?)
** Schedule:
This will depend on the location, so I'll start a new thread for DC.=20
Feel free to start threads for your location.
=E2=80=94George
On 12/5/19 3:22 PM, George Paci wrote:
> Who would be interested in physically getting together for a=20
> substantial period of time (8 hours or a few days) to just plain=20
> practice the way we do XP (and related things) today?=C2=A0 At the end, =
we=20
> could make a list of things we saw that aren't common knowledge, and=20
> briefly explain them.
>
> The code could be one or more (probably Open Source) projects that we=20
> bring.=C2=A0 Each project could be in a different language; part of what=
we=20
> need to know is how to deal with languages and systems we don't=20
> understand yet.
>
> This is just a vague idea at the moment, but for what it's worth, I=20
> can provide space for a couple dozen people to code (in a sunny,=20
> climate-controlled room) near Washington, DC.
>
> =E2=80=94George
>
> "I used to think that the brain was the most important organ in
> body.=C2=A0 Then I realized who was telling me this..." - Emo Phillips
>
>
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On Monday, December 16, 2019, 3:57:14 PM PST, George P=
aci <[email protected]> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr"> From the replies, it looks like we =
can do this in three locations:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> * Washington, DC<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"> * London<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"> * Lisbon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">While it would be cool to try to do them all on the same day and <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">videoconference or something, it might make more sens=
e to run one, then <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">incorporate lessons learned i=
nto the others.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I sugg=
est discussing the format in this thread, and scheduling for <br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">individual locations in their own threads.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">** Format:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Todd brought up Open Space, and I think at least =
part of the day should <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have that kind of partici=
pant-directedness.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tod=
d also mentioned that he has some interactive workshops, which is the <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">kind of thing I was thinking of. In particular,=
I would like most of <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the time to either be hand=
s-on (coding, integrating, deploying, etc.) or <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">r=
eflecting directly on what we learned from hands-on activity or how we <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">can improve it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">I also want us to share our Best Tricks (either coding, or=
coaching, or <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">otherwise).<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">** Programming content:<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Steve mentioned The Dude's Code Jams, and =
giving something to the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">community. My present co=
mpany has a couple existing projects for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not-for=
-profits that might benefit from contributors; I'll ask about <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">that. Bob Payne is local to DC, and I know he's connect=
ed to some <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not-for-profit projects, as is George=
[1].<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If we're thinking=
about the programming or XP community, I don't think <br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">there's any dearth of ideas for smallish applications that would impr=
ove <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">things. (Maybe that deserves a thread of its=
own?)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">** Schedule:<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">This will depend on the =
location, so I'll start a new thread for DC. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fee=
l free to start threads for your location.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94George<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">On 12/5/19 3:22 PM, George Paci wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Who would be interested in physically =
getting together for a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> substantial period o=
f time (8 hours or a few days) to just plain <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
; practice the way we do XP (and related things) today? At the end, w=
e <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> could make a list of things we saw that a=
ren't common knowledge, and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> briefly explain=
them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> The co=
de could be one or more (probably Open Source) projects that we <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">> bring. Each project could be in a different lang=
uage; part of what we <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> need to know is how t=
o deal with languages and systems we don't <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
understand yet.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; This is just a vague idea at the moment, but for what it's worth, I <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">> can provide space for a couple dozen people to =
code (in a sunny, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> climate-controlled room) =
near Washington, DC.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">> =E2=80=94George<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">> "I used to think that the brain was the most important organ in<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> body. Then I realized who was telling =
me this..." - Emo Phillips<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=
=
=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
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