Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering
"Steve Ropa" <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Dec 2019 21:55:08 -0700
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ass=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>You know, there=E2=80=99s a bunch o=
f us XP=E2=80=99ers up in Detroit these days too, I can ask around about th=
at.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent =
from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> =
for Windows 10</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D'm=
so-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in=
'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">George Paci</a><br><b>Sent=
: </b>Monday, December 16, 2019 4:57 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:ext=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject: =
</b>Re: [extremeprogramming] Practicing XP gathering</p></div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> From the replies, it loo=
ks like we can do this in three locations:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> * Washington, DC</p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> * London</p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> * Lisbon<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>While it =
would be cool to try to do them all on the same day and </p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>videoconference or something, it might make more sense to run one, th=
en </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>incorporate lessons learned into the others.</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I suggest d=
iscussing the format in this thread, and scheduling for </p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>individual locations in their own threads.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>** Format:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Todd brought up Open Space, and I=
think at least part of the day should </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>have that k=
ind of participant-directedness.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Todd also mentioned that he has some interactive wo=
rkshops, which is the </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>kind of thing I was thinking=
of. In particular, I would like most of </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>the=
time to either be hands-on (coding, integrating, deploying, etc.) or </p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>reflecting directly on what we learned from hands-on ac=
tivity or how we </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>can improve it.</p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also want us to share ou=
r Best Tricks (either coding, or coaching, or </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>othe=
rwise).</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>*=
* Programming content:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>Steve mentioned The Dude's Code Jams, and giving something to=
the </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>community. My present company has a couple ex=
isting projects for </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>not-for-profits that might ben=
efit from contributors; I'll ask about </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>that. =
Bob Payne is local to DC, and I know he's connected to some </p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>not-for-profit projects, as is George[1].</p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If we're thinking about the =
programming or XP community, I don't think </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>there's=
any dearth of ideas for smallish applications that would improve </p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>things. (Maybe that deserves a thread of its own?)</p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>** Schedule:</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This will dep=
end on the location, so I'll start a new thread for DC. </p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>Feel free to start threads for your location.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=94George</p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 12/5/19 3:22 PM, Georg=
e Paci wrote:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>> Who would be interested in physically getting together for a </p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>> substantial period of time (8 hours or a few days=
) to just plain </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> practice the way we do XP (an=
d related things) today? At the end, we </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>=
could make a list of things we saw that aren't common knowledge, and </p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>> briefly explain them.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>=
<o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> The code could be one or mor=
e (probably Open Source) projects that we </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> bri=
ng. Each project could be in a different language; part of what we </=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> need to know is how to deal with languages and =
systems we don't </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> understand yet.</p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> This is ju=
st a vague idea at the moment, but for what it's worth, I </p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>> can provide space for a couple dozen people to code (in a sunn=
y, </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> climate-controlled room) near Washington, =
DC.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&=
gt; =E2=80=94George</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>> "I used to think that the brain was the most impor=
tant organ in</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> body. Then I realized who =
was telling me this..." - Emo Phillips</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>><o:=
p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>> </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>=
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