Re: Learning a new language every year can be dangerous.

"DanHinojosa" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.language-of-the-year
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], "Avdi Grimm" <avdi@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:37 AM, DanHinojosa <dh.evolutionnext@...>
wrote:
> >  Ok, here is the deal.  It's chicken vs. egg.  It is more a pain
in the
> >  ass for me look up if DI is in the C++ CULTURE. Culture being the
most
> >  operative word.
> 
> Keep in mind that C++ doesn't have a culture, per se.  It can't; the
> user community is too big.  It has many cultures.  For instance there
> are the wizardly C++ programmers who sling templates and live and
> breathe boost; but then there is a whole huge swath of coders who
> program in C++ simply because that's their job, who don't really
> understand templates and have never even heard of boost.  And there
> are vast gulfs between the different application domains, as well -
> the C++ embedded systems community is very different from the C++
> database programming community.
> 
> Even in a relatively small community such as Ruby there are almost as
> many cultures are there are members.  (A recent [paraphrased] example:
> someone asked "why is everyone in the community so gung-ho about Git
> these days?"; a prominent rubyist replied "Who's gung-ho?  I don't
> know of anyone using it".)  In a group as big as C++ users, asking
> whether something is part of the culture is practically a null
> question.  All you can do is ask whether a given individual is
> familiar with the pattern in question.  My guess, from my days in C++,
> is that the only pattern that you can depend on any C++ developer
> knowing is (sadly) Singleton.
> 
> And the C++ community, in my experience, is rather less cohesive even
> than most.  Compare to Java: Java conferences are a big deal with
> thousands of attendess; almost no one goes to C++ conferences despite
> the size of the user base.  There are big Java programming news
> outlets like TheServerSide.com with enormous readership; there are no
> comparable sites with that kind of clout for C++.
> 
> >   Up to that point I had no idea that DI would be foreign to them.
> 
> There is no them.
> 

When I said "them", I meant to the netizens of the C++ USENET group,
not the entire C++ community.


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