Re: Re: Learning a new language every year can be dangerous.

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> > >
> > > Now again, it is obvious that there are fan boys for every programming
> > > language. I remember listening to a podcast by Dave Thomas where he
> > > introduced the idea of learning a new language because the language
> > > you are using may not be around and/or maybe you can expand your
> > > mental boundaries about how to code by learning new languages. What
> > > did Dave get for his revolutionary ideas? Threats! It was on an old
> > > AgileToolkit podcast so check out his story. ;)
> > >
> > > It really is interesting how people behave when it comes to
> > > programming knowledge. The smartest people I know are never afraid to
> > > use "I don't know" and they always treat people who don't know, with
> > > respect. I try to live by that code, I may fail, but I make the
> > > greatest effort not to.
> > >
> > > Just some observations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I found this thread amusing so I looked up your questions on Google.
> > Here's the first.
> >
> > 
> http://objectmix.com/c/369520-pointer-programming-even-necessary.html 
> <http://objectmix.com/c/369520-pointer-programming-even-necessary.html>
> >
> > I like the way that you characterized the exchange. The first response
> > looks like very thoughtful and helpful. The response you took
> offense to
> > was not referring to your lack of C++ knowledge. The poster simply has
> > the opinion that after 10-15 years of programming in any language that
> > someone should have a little better understanding of how computers work
> > and what pointers.
>
> Let me just address your other content...
>
> "It's incredible that you have programmed for 10-15 years and don't
> know this" is considered helpful in your opinion?
>
>
> >
> > The second is found here:
> >
> >
> http://objectmix.com/c/375425-c-culture-use-dependency-injection-inversion-ofcontrol.html 
> <http://objectmix.com/c/375425-c-culture-use-dependency-injection-inversion-ofcontrol.html>
> >
> > Yes, one guy did call you a smart-ass but then your question was
> kind of
> > terse. You really need to look at it from the other persons view. Here
> > you are asking him to take time out of his busy life to help you. You
> > ask a question that has so little information it probably going to take
> > him 15-20 minutes on Google just to figure out what you're talking
> > about. Then it going to take more time for him to write a response. I
> > probably wouldn't have called you a smart-ass but I would not have
> > answered your question either. I find it hard to put more effort into
> > answering a question than was put into asking it.
>
> Ok, here is the deal. It's chicken vs. egg. It is more a pain in the
> ass for me look up if DI is in the C++ CULTURE. Culture being the most
> operative word. That's why in my question I wasn't
> going for any technical information per se, just how seasoned C++
> programmers program their code and whether it was in their culture.
> It is tough to gauge what is in a programming culture without asking
> programmers themselves.
>
> Up to that point I had no idea that DI would be foreign to them.
> That's why people ask questions, to gain insight (or some gripes in
> this case). As you saw, there were some posters who genuinely either
> asked what DI was, or knew both C++ and DI and gave the help and the
> insight I needed. That's just some good professional courtesy.
>
> All in all, I can't believe you are programmer and don't know the
> difference between programming culture vs. programming patterns
> (kidding). ;)
>
>  


I am not sure that you got my point. You've been programming for 10-15 
years. I am sure that you understand that 'jargon' is used all over and 
can mean different things depending on context (including _culture_) it 
being used in. Your question was about jargon an absolutely no context. 
Courtesy dictates that you spend at least as much time making your 
question easy to answer as it will take to answer the question.


Since you assert that your questions are serious, might I recommend the 
following link.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&q=%22dependency+injection%22+C%2B%2B

(this is the search result in Google for '"dependency injection" C++')

The first link covers a lot of the ground that has been covered in this 
list. It also points to some libraries that at least 1 C ++ programmer 
thinks does something like DI. The second link is to Wikipedia. It has a 
brief description of DI and then lists libraries in 10 different 
languages that implement to some degree or another DI.