Re: What are the most important issues during offshore software development

Jeroen,

you went from "my personal experience is not exhaustive" to "people
working in Asia are no good" rather quickly.

I plead you to not base your analysis of professional behaviour in
India on your personal experience, since I assume you have not worked
with a significant amount of the population of India. There are more
than one billion Indians out there living in India, so please don't
forget that.

Best wishes,
Luiz

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:00 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The problem is not outsourcing to Asia. The problem is outsourcing. I
>> bet my Gibson Les Paul that results would be much poorer if, for
>> instance, brazilian companies offshored systems development to
>> american or german companies. After all, how many americans or germans
>> out there can communicate well in Portuguese?
>>
> Speaking the language helps, but there's something in the attitude of Asians
> that (in my experience) makes it a lot harder to work with Asian (mainly but
> not exclusively Indian) firms than with most others.
>
> They often have an attitude of racial superiority to their customers, and
> are totally unwilling to accept that they may be wrong.
> If you look at the massive flood of threads on for example the Sun forums by
> lazy Indian kids who are utterly incompetent but claim to be senior students
> and want others to do their graduation work for them, it gives a clear
> indication that these kids are not interested in learning their trade, only
> in getting a piece of paper so they can pass themselves off to foreign
> customers as professionals.
>
> While such an attitude exists worldwide, it does appear to be far more
> prevalent in Asia than elsewhere (and especially in India).
>
> I've spoken (and worked) with quality Indians (and others) who clearly
> indicate that all Indians (and Pakistani and others) who have proper skills
> and integrity get out of the country as soon as they can, and often get good
> jobs elsewhere.
> That leaves mainly the incompetents, the lazy kids who can talk quick but
> don't know an integer from a float, to man the offshoring projects.
>
>> Software professionals from India, Brazil, China and Eastern Europe
>> are just as knowledgeable as those from North America and Western
>> Europe, so it is offshoring that hurts product quality.
>>
>
> No, it's the people doing the work out there in Asia (and to a lesser degree
> eastern Europe).
>
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