Re: What are the most important issues during offshore software development

This is empirical evidence... Not good enough for the deal. Could I
say that every German is purely analytical and unable to be pragmatic
just because I happened to work with one that fit this description? No
way, cant do that!

Most offshoring fails to produce the expected results (incredible cost
reduction with similar perceived quality). Whether the most likely
cause is Asiatic behaviour (that encompasses Mongols as well as
Iraqis, so it is a laughable concept), lack of communication, customer
inability to deliver good requirements, wrong specs or just bad luck
is an open subject.

Sincerely yours,
Luiz

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:40 PM, jens bendig <[email protected]> wrote:
> Luiz,
>
> I will, source out to me. You can send the Guitar after Iteration 3.
> Yours,
> Jens
> Am 03.07.2008 um 19:26 schrieb Luiz Esmiralha:
>
> Hi Jens,
>
> Oh, sure, but first you just have to send me proof that I'm wrong.
> Proof that is not based on bias, "personal experience" (bias) or
> "empyrical evidence" (bias).
>
> Thanks and good luck,
> Luiz
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, jens bendig <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi Luiz,
>>
>> please send the Guitar to this address:
>> motionDesign/void Gmbh
>> Fahrenheitstr. 1
>> 28359 Bremen
>> Germany
>> Thanks,
>> Jens
>>
>> Am 03.07.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Luiz Esmiralha:
>>
>> The problem is not outsourcing to Asia. The problem is outsourcing. I
>> bet my Gibson Les Paul that results would be much poorer if, for
>> instance, brazilian companies offshored systems development to
>> american or german companies. After all, how many americans or germans
>> out there can communicate well in Portuguese?
>>
>> Software professionals from India, Brazil, China and Eastern Europe
>> are just as knowledgeable as those from North America and Western
>> Europe, so it is offshoring that hurts product quality.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Luiz Esmiralha
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, shi lin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Yeah, there are some many successful offshore stories.
>>>>
>>>> And Enron was a "success story" once -- before it wasn't. :-)
>>>>
>>> Yup. Been there, done that, seen the disasters.
>>>
>>>> > That is why US or European companies outsourced their projects
>>>>
>>>> Companies outsource because it's cheaper. In the cases I'm personally
>>>> familiar with, the project owners simply didn't care that the end
>>>> product
>>>> was unmaintainable, barely-usable crap.
>>>>
>>> Mostly. More often the project owners were forced into it be boardrooms
>>> who
>>> didn't want to know.
>>> Offshoring was "kewl" and made you look "modern" because "everybody does
>>> it
>>> so it must be good".
>>>
>>>> Their only goal was to show their boss the project was done, check
>>>> it off, look good for the next performance/salary review.
>>>>
>>> The goal was usually to do it on the cheap, never mind the consequences
>>> as
>>> I'll no longer be managing the project after it enters maintenance.
>>>
>>>> Forgive me if I'm skeptical of all the white-paper "success stories"...
>>>>
>>> Nothing to forgive.
>>> While there are successes (I've seen them) those do NOT involve
>>> offshoring
>>> to Asia and only involve offshoring the mechanical work of turning highly
>>> detailed technical designs into code modules.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Dipl.-Phys. Jens Bendig
>> motionDesign im Technologiepark Universität Bremen
>> http://www.motionDesign.de
>> [email protected]
>> Fahrenheitstr. 1
>> 28359 Bremen
>> Tel. 49 -421 2208 311 nachmittags
>>
>>
>>
>
> Dipl.-Phys. Jens Bendig
> motionDesign im Technologiepark Universität Bremen
> http://www.motionDesign.de
> [email protected]
> Fahrenheitstr. 1
> 28359 Bremen
> Tel. 49 -421 2208 311 nachmittags
>
>
>