RE: What's up with C++ (books)?
"Wayne Johnson" <wayne-Lt/[email protected]> Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:30:25 -0700
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CC20A3.1ECEEB38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uncle. =20 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Avdi Grimm Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [pragprog] What's up with C++ (books)? =20 =20=20 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Michael Schuerig <[email protected] <mailto:michael.lists%40schuerig.de> > wrote: > This seems completely reasonable, but at least as far as GUI > applications are concerned, it doesn't appear to be the consensus. Most > KDE applications are written in C++. For Gnome it's even plain C. Mac OS > X applications are written in Objective-C. Despite the existence of > other, higher-level language bindings for each of these environments. The fact that it is done doesn't make it a good idea. C++ was *never* intended for GUI app programming. Now that there are high-quality bindings available--a relatively recent phenomenon--more and more GNOME and KDE apps are being written in Python, Vala, C#, Ruby, or Javascript. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC20A3.1ECEEB38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Uncle.<o></o></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><div style="border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;"><div><div style="border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Avdi Grimm<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pragprog] What's up with C++ (books)?<o></o></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <o></o></p><div><p>On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11: 52 AM, Michael Schuerig<br><<a href="mailto:michael.lists%40schuerig.de">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>> This seems completely reasonable, but at least as far as GUI<br>> applications are concerned, it doesn't appear to be the consensus. Most<br>> KDE applications are written in C++. For Gnome it's even plain C. Mac OS<br>> X applications are written in Objective-C. Despite the existence of<br>> other, higher-level language bindings for each of these environments.<br><br>The fact that it is done doesn't make it a good idea. C++ was *never*<br>intended for GUI app programming. Now that there are high-quality<br>bindings available--a relatively recent phenomenon--more and more<br>GNOME and KDE apps are being written in Python, Vala, C#, Ruby, or<br>J avascript.<br><br><span style="color:white;"><o></o></span></p></div></div></div></p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:wayne-Lt/[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5Bpragprog%5D%20What%27s%20up%20with%20C%2B%2B%20%28books%29%3F" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5Bpragprog%5D%20What%27s%20up%20with%20C%2B%2B%20%28books%29%3F"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxaDY0MWRjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI4Mzg3MDgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3MjA3BG1zZ0lkAzEwMTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTMwNjk2MzgyNw--?act=reply&messageNum=10185">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcmdwbThoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI4Mzg3MDgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3MjA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTMwNjk2MzgyNw--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog/message/10136;_ylc=X3oDMTM2ZW0xMmZhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI4Mzg3MDgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3MjA3BG1zZ0lkAzEwMTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTMwNjk2MzgyNwR0cGNJZAMxMDEzNg--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">49</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pragprog;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMmk4dDlzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI4Mzg3MDgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3MjA3BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTMwNjk2MzgyNw--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkdTY0ZTkzBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzI4Mzg3MDgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3MjA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzA2OTYzODI3" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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