RE: [AM] Too ambitious?
Kirk Knoernschild <[email protected]> Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:39:39 -0600
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It sounds like there are actually quite a few things that are candidates for change beyond just modeling. Here are some considerations. - Don't preach modeling. It's likely you'll encounter some resistance anytime you try to change things, and if they haven't modeled in the past, there will be those who resist. Instead, incorporate your ideas into your new project slowly, and in places where you feel you'll get the biggest bang for the buck. Really though, I put a few other practices above modeling on the list of important practices to follow. - IME, quality issues are usually due to management issues. And I'm not just talking high level managers and project managers, but also the developers ability to manage the code, their time, and their resources. This can be addressed through aggressive testing, and a frequent build cycle. I'm not sure how often you build presently, but consider at least a daily build, which includes a full run of an automated test suite. Make that build available so that people can see what you're doing. - Long term, all projects are waterfall. Mostly, this is how management has to see things to plan, establish vision, etc. But from a developers perspective, you can do a lot to develop iteratively. This starts with a daily build and a lot of testing, along with some design and then modeling. - Functional specs and the meetings that go along with them are boring. I always try to get the product in front of the client as quickly as possible. A few screen shots, a functional prototype, or a proof that's a tangible simulation of how the system will function evokes a tremendous amount of thought and discussion among people. It's amazing how much you can learn about what the client wants when you put something in front of them that they can see and touch. Growing the functional spec using some screen shots to drive the discussion can make for a very interesting session. - The developers are the folks writing the code, and they must have an intimate understanding of the rules. Involve developers in those meetings where you talk about the requirements. It's likely that you won't be able to change things overnight. Pick a few things that you consider most important, and try them out. These are just a few samples of what could be considered. Kirk Knoernschild | Senior Consultant/Instructor | www.kirkk.com TeamSoft, Inc. | www.extensiblejava.com Training, Mentoring, Consulting | www.teamsoftinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Steven Wong [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AM] Too ambitious? Hi all, I've been subscribed to this list for quite some time now and have always enjoyed learning from the postings here. This is my first posting and its probably not totally related to Agile processes at all... but more on soliciting advice as to whether I am being too ambitious in my current situation... Compared to most of the people here, I consider myself really junior with only about 5.5 yrs of software development experience... Been working in the software industry for 7.5 yrs, but the last 2 yrs has been pretty much architecting on paper without much opportunity for hands-on coding work... I know... still very fresh! :) Anyway, I recently joined a software organization that builds front-end applications for banks (like internet banking and credit mgmt workflow applications) that does not believe in modeling, or rather, they 'believe' in modeling, but project timeframe quoted to customers typically does not justify it. Instead of modeling or designing, they are more into developing software templates that are then passed on to developers to "copy and fill-in the empty bits". Probably the only design done before coding is probably the database design... and screen flow design (which is aka Functional Specifications here). Doing so allow them to produce modules very quickly... although there are quite a lot of quality issues popping up in past projects these days.... but that's another story... :-) Anyway, the organization is now thinking of moving into building their own product (for example, an Internet Bank product) that will be sold and customized for each individual bank as the profit margin is higher this way.... As luck would have it, yours truly has been selected to be the software architect for this productization effort (maybe due to my excessive preaching on the use of modeling and design). I see this as an opportunity to drive the organization towards a model/design first before build culture. On the other hand, I am also apprehensive of the fact that I will be working with people (developers as well as business analysts) who come from the traditional "template" approach as well as Project managers that follows Waterfall lifecycle models rather than iterative-incremental approaches. I would say that probably I would be the only person on the team with some experience in modeling (and I am not very experienced at that!).This leads me to think that this could potentially back-fire and encourage the disbelief of the organization on modeling and design. In addition to corporate culture, the development process that I will be facing is probably not going to be iterative-incremental... and inputs will probably still be Functional Specs (containing just screen design with field descriptions and logic description)... I've said a lot... but I guess to sum it all up, I just wanted to find out if I am being too ambitious to try to get the entire team to do modeling and design first before coding as well as solicit as much advice as I can from all the experienced people here on how to approach this. Thanks in advance, Steven. For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.bWnbtk.Z2NtYS1h Or send an email to: [email protected] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------