RE: [AM] Why Traceability?

And to add to that, would any of these change/impact estimation activities
be any more effective than going to one of the developers and aksing
"roughly how long would that take you?" It does rather smack of "jobs for
the boys".

Jason 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tina Erwee [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 16 March 2004 12:45
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [AM] Why Traceability?
> 
>  I do not think traceability will guarantee that the impact 
> of a change will be gauged sufficiently. I believe it can 
> only be done by looking at the bigger picture - high level use cases.
> 
> Sure there are times when traceability has a role to play. 
> These would be enormous projects with very big teams. Most 
> software development does not happen that way.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: McGovern, Patrick J [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 16 March 2004 14:14
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [AM] Why Traceability?
> > 
> > 
> > IME traceability offers an understanding of impact of change and 
> > allows you to actually somewhat measure that change.
> > 
> > If I change this use case I will also have to review these 
> classes and 
> > those classes being changed will affect this component and if that 
> > component changes I have to rerun these tests to ensure that 
> > everything "still" works correctly...
> > 
> > Is that too simplistic an answer? That seems to me to be the real 
> > value.
> > Of course you can go in the other direction too...this machine went 
> > down so that service is no longer available...blah blah...
> > 
> > -pjm-
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tina Erwee [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:04 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [AM] Why Traceability?
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > I think the only real stick traceability ever gave anyone, was the 
> > stick to hit the client over the head with: "You can't have 
> this, you 
> > dirty little client. You did not ask for this (2 years ago)!"
> > 
> > Oh, of course traceability generates work. Keeping your 
> requirements 
> > and models in sync (explicit traceability) can be so much work that 
> > you will need an extra resource just to manage the docs, unless you 
> > use a tool (that cost more than the resource)!
> > 
> > That's about it!
> > Tina
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Oldfield [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: 16 March 2004 13:34
> > > To: INTERNET:[email protected]
> > > Subject: [AM] Why Traceability?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi, all.
> > > 
> > > There has been a thread over several agile forums in the last 10 
> > > days or so about Traceability.
> > > 
> > > There seemed to be some consensus reached that traceability is a 
> > > solution to a problem, one that may no longer hold true (as in no 
> > > longer the best solution) in an agile environment.
> > > 
> > > However, a topic that never seemed to reach consensus, or even be 
> > > given a satisfactory answer, IMHO, was the question of 
> what problem 
> > > or problems traceability was trying to solve.
> > > 
> > > Given the apparent number of greybeards on this forum, 
> (younger folk 
> > > can also respond, please?) can anyone give an opinion as to why 
> > > traceability is wanted - what does it give us?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul Oldfield
> > > www.aptprocess.com
> > > 
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> > > 
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