RE: [AM] Why Traceability?
dr Vidan Markovic <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:50:13 +0100
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(responding to John) Is CMM at level 1 (ad-hock) more compliant to agility principles than at higher CMM levels? Well, not necessarily. My opinion is that continuous and recursive implementation of agility in already established procedures and processes (CMM levels 2,3,4, and 5)in order to optimize them, by creating shorter iterations, leaner documentation and models, quicker feedbacks, and better defect prevention initiatives (i.e. pairing developers) would lead to achieving higher CMM level as well (by its definition). I might me wrong, but this is exactly what I am trying to do at my work place, and results are so far positive. Vidan -----Original Message----- From: Paul Oldfield [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:02 PM To: INTERNET:[email protected] Subject: RE: [AM] Why Traceability? (responding to John) > I was at a talk a few months ago where Ken Schwaber gave > a quick introduction to Scrum and its place in the Agile > universe. I remember him mentioning that Scrum was CMM > level 2 and 3 compliant but now that I know a little more > about CMM, I'm having difficultly understanding how an Agile > process can be CMM compliant without losing its agility. > > My difficulty arises from CMM's "Maintain Bidirectional > Traceability of Requirements" specific practice. As far as I > can tell, you can't achieve universal traceability without > heavy documentation or tools, both of which are discouraged > in Agile processes. Automated tests (JUnit, NUnit, etc.) > certainly help agility and give great traceability but they aren't > appropriate (AFAIK) for testing user interfaces so user > interface requirements must be traced some other way, > which brings us back to documentation or tools. > > How do people satisfy CMM's need for Bidirectional > Traceability without being crushed by documents or > distracted by tools? First, let me correct a possible misconception. Agile approaches are not absolutely anti-tool. The agilists are most enthusiastic about use of appropriate tools, and are pretty prolific at the creation of appropriate tools (as all Unix programmers used to be, way back... but don't let me get distracted!). Agilists don't like big, unwieldy, expensive tools that require big, unwieldy, expensive process to go along with. The next question one needs to ask is, "What does CMM mean when it talks about Bidirectional Traceability?" Generally, the CMM auditors will take any reasonable interpretation, as indicated in the earlier response on this thread from Hubert. If the test *is* the requirement, then a passed test indicates the requirement traces to the code. A reasonable code coverage tool will trace the code to the requirement (in desperation, one could comment out the code in question and see what tests fail). Other tools can be used for testing the user interface - there's a yahoo forum specifically on the topic of doing test-first development for user interfaces, if you need help... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces So to answer the question in your final paragraph - you use tools that don't distract. Paul Oldfield ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ www.aptprocess.com any opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of Mentors of Cally or the Appropriate Process Movement ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.bWnbtk.Z2NtYS1h Or send an email to: [email protected] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^----------------------------------------------------------------