Re: [AM] CMM vs Agility? (was Re: Why Traceability?)

Just wanted to imply that CMM doesn't necessary mean that organizations 
will be taking a BDUF approach.

Having said that, there does seem to be one heck of a co-related between 
CMM and serial approaches.

- Scott

At 11:14 AM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 12:50:13PM +0100, dr Vidan Markovic wrote:
> > Is CMM at level 1 (ad-hock) more compliant to agility principles than at
> > higher CMM levels? Well, not necessarily. My opinion is that continuous and
> > recursive implementation of agility in already established procedures and
> > processes (CMM levels 2,3,4, and 5)in order to optimize them, by creating
> > shorter iterations, leaner documentation and models, quicker feedbacks, and
> > better defect prevention initiatives (i.e. pairing developers) would 
> lead to
> > achieving higher CMM level as well (by its definition).
> > I might me wrong, but this is exactly what I am trying to do at my work
> > place, and results are so far positive.
>
>Mark Paulk, who was one of the primary authors of v1.1 of CMM
>has been saying for the last few years that he feels that the
>eXtreme Programming agile methodology is most definitely level
>3 CMM when followed by-the-book. See more info at
>    http://www.computer.org/seweb/dynabook/Commentator.htm
>and
>    http://www.sei.cmu.edu/activities/cmm/papers/xp-cmm.pdf
>
>I also am aware of some projects which are purportedly
>employing agile methods and which are part of CMM level 4 and 5
>organizations. I'm sure they are doing some practices that "pure"
>XP/Agilists might consider "BDUF" as per their organizational
>culture, but they have nonetheless managed to adapt to align
>with the organization and still be agile. The IXP "extension"
>to XP allegedly has much success at helping organizations do
>this sort of thing with XP (see www.industrialxp.org)
>
>--
>Brad Appleton <[email protected]> www.bradapp.net
>   Software CM Patterns (www.scmpatterns.com)
>    Effective Teamwork, Practical Integration
>"And miles to go before I sleep." -- Robert Frost

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