RE: [AM] Requirements Encapsulation

"McGovern, Patrick J" <[email protected]> Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:52:16 -0500
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Rick,

I'll certainly pick up your gauntlet. I'm sure I'm not alone in this
group in my experience that during my career I've been required to
pickup some pretty esoteric subjects simply from reading. There is often
a training budget but it is always limited and if the money isn't the
limit then the time away from productive work is the limitation. So fire
away. I'll try to wrap my mind around it.

-pjm-
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Lutowski [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AM] Requirements Encapsulation
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> Brad Appleton wrote:
> >
> > I hereby throw down a challenge to you to do this without hiding
> > evidence and details behind "you wouldn't understand" and/or
> > "you have to pay to take my training first" and make an open
> > and honest attempt to illuminate it here on this list in open
> > discussion with many other experts with genuine depth and
> > breadth of understanding in all the above things.
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> It certainly was not my intent to talk down to anyone or insult
> anyone's intelligence or training, but to paint the picture as
> accurately as possible based on my prior experience.  Prior
> experience to date has shown that written explanations are
> necessary but insufficient to understand Freedom.  A certain
> amount of face-to-face and hands-on seem to be required.
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> However, since you threw down the gauntlet, I will do the same
> and challenge the denizens of this list to learn Freedom based
> on written explanations in this forum without exposure to the
> face-to-face course.  If you all can do this, you will be the
> first.
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> I have always attributed the past failures to the fact that
> Freedom involves not just new techniques like functionality
> trees, behavior tables, and the like, but an entirely new
> mindset wrt requirements.  It is probably fair to say it is
> a requirements paradigm shift.  Paradigm shifts are typically
> more challenging to wrap one's mind around than most other
> types of material.
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> However, I am also willing to concede the failures may strictly
> lie with me.  Perhaps I have simply not found the correct
> way to present this material.  If that is the case, I may
> be the one who learns the most in this exercise by finding
> better ways of explaining the material.  I do hope this
> turns out to be the case.
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> There is one other thing I will ask of the members of this list.
> Assuming we successfully reach our goal of explaining Freedom
> so that you all understand it, I will then ask all of you to
> give your assessment of how Freedom might best be used in an
> agile context or, if it cannot be, then why.  I would also
> expect an assessment of Freedom wrt AM values and principles
> to result from such a discussion.
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> That is my counter-challenge. Is everyone game?  If not,
> please speak your mind now.
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> --
> Rick Lutowski
> Principal, JReality
> [email protected]
> http://www.jreality.com
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