RE: Refactoring process model,

And the name we give this ility is?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adam Sroka
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [refactoring] Refactoring process model,

To make the design simpler -- so it has less duplication, is clearer, and
has no unneeded parts. Thus it should be easier to maintain.

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Amir Kolsky <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
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> You do not refactor, that is change the design, just for the sake of it.
> You
> set out with the goal of improving SOME ility -- why else would you 
> change your design? The same hold for process refactoring. So, here's 
> a question to the original poster -- what are you trying to 
> accomplish?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Adam Sroka
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:27 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [refactoring] Refactoring process model,
>
> We refactor to improve the design. We optimize to improve "ilities." 
> These are separate activities. The end goal is to have the best design 
> that meets the customers needs.
>
> It is true that a given refactoring may preserve behavior but not 
> performance (or other qualities.) That's why we write tests for these 
> and when they fall outside an acceptable threshold we optimize them 
> aggressively.
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Amir Kolsky <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Well... Refactoring a system means changing its internal structure 
> > without changing its behavior. I would guess that for a process with 
> > a specified input and output, you can change the internal steps 
> > without changing the outcome.
> >
> > The problem with the definition of refactoring is that what is 
> > construed to be the 'behavior of the system' really means the 
> > 'functional behavior of the system'. This leaves 'ilities' in an 
> > unknown state. Should the performance be the same? The flexibility?
> > The maintainability?
> >
> > If you would keep the full behavior of the system intact, you can't 
> > really do any refactoring. So my guess is that by 'process'
> > refactoring we mean making sure that the outcome is the same but we 
> > get better performance, visibility, quality, etc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Steven Gordon
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:15 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [refactoring] Refactoring process model,
> >
> > Would refactoring a model mean that the form and organization of the 
> > model is being changed while keeping the meaning of the model unchanged?
> >
> > If so, I would need some convincing to believe there is much 
> > practical value in it.
> >
> > If not, then I think refactoring would be a very deceptive way to 
> > label what is really reworking a model.
> >
> > SteveG
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:37 AM, aishafds <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > Am planning to do a little research on refactoring of business 
> > > process models. can you please suggest some ways i can go about...
> > >
> > > Was thinking of a normalization approach to the models...do you 
> > > think this idea can work out ?
> > > thanks
> > > looking forward to your suggestions Aisha
> > >
> > >
> > >
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