Re: Re: Scrum Master Job Description

"Scott Griffin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Dec 2017 19:43:18 +0000 (UTC)
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My comment about "One True Wayism" was not about the distributed teams, it =
was about the "you'd better never call yourself a SCRUM Master" comment fro=
m Steve.
It was intended to be an offhand joke about what is and isn't prop=
er Agile Dev methodology, because that's the nature of Agile Dev methodolog=
y - you adapt the principles to the situation. 


    On Wednesday, December=
 20, 2017 2:23 PM, "Alan Dayley [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" =
<[email protected]> wrote:
 


 =C2=A0   None of the guides y=
ou cite say that the team has to be in the same room. If I wrote something =
that states or implies such a requirement, I apologize.=C2=A0
Distributed t=
eams can be successful. They simply have a communication handicap to overco=
me.=C2=A0
Here is a true story about Agile Manifesto Principle number 6.. I=
t is possible for such a story to happen using instant messaging or video t=
ools and so on. I have yet to see it happen like this with such tools.=C2=
=A0


Agile Manifesto Principle #6


The most efficient and effective method =
of conveying information to and within a development team is face-to-face c=
onversation.


A true story
At an Agile Coaching engagement, my desk was loc=
ated among the teams in a open office. My desk faced one of the team's test=
ers, with other team members in the rows near us. One afternoon the tester =
spoke up to one of the programmers a few desks away.Tester: Hey, [Coder], t=
his font here is incorrect.Coder: (Not looking up from his screens) No it's=
 not.Tester: Yes, it is. Look at it.Coder: Sigh. (Gets up and comes to Test=
er's desk, looks at his screen) No, that's the right font.Product Owner: (G=
ets up from her desk behind me, looks at Tester's screen) Yeah, I don't thi=
nk that is the right font. What font should it be?Tech Writer: (Sitting wit=
h her back to the Tester) Just check the wire frame, it says what the font =
is supposed to be. Here, I'll look it up. (Types and click briefly) It's su=
pposed to be Garamond.Tester: Yep, that's what I'm saying, it's the wrong f=
ont.Coder: OK, give me a minute. (Goes to his desk, clicks and types) OK, c=
heck that when the build finishes.Tester: Looks good now.Everyone goes back=
 to their desks and resumes whatever.
Meaning
Face-to-face is not only abou=
t a face on a screen, though that is better than no face view at all. It's =
about being together and efficiently communicating in the now. Collaboratio=
n can happen using tools and such. And it's so much easier when the team is=
 actually together.Yes, the business world is mostly convinced that remote,=
 distributed and dispersed is how it must be. There is a significant cost t=
o that model. That cost may be acceptable or even necessary. This Principle=
 #6 reminds us of the cost we pay when we are not together.
On Wed, Dec 20,=
 2017 at 12:53 PM [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@yaho=
ogroups.com> wrote:


 =C2=A0   Alan - can you tell us where in the Agile Ma=
nifesto, the Agile Principles or the Scrum Guide, it says that the team hav=
e to be in the same room?
I think you=C2=A0 may find that this 'same room' =
mentality=C2=A0comes from the early days of XP but the Agile movement has m=
oved on (forgive the pun!).
I have regularly coached and mentored successfu=
l Agile teams with global distribution; daily stand-ups with team, stakehol=
der and management members in Tokyo, Beijing, San Diego and Helsinki.=C2=A0=


   
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 <div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 2:23 PM, "Alan Dayley [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0184197619"><div>
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      <div></div><div><div>None of the guides you cite say that the team has to be in the same room. If I wrote something that states or implies such a requirement, I apologize.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Distributed teams can be successful. They simply have a communication handicap to overcome.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Here is a true story about Agile Manifesto Principle number 6.. It is possible for such a story to happen using instant messaging or video tools and so on. I have yet to see it happen like this with such tools.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><h1 style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;">Agile Manifesto Principle #6</h1><blockquote style="border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(232,232,232);marg
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 e font is supposed to be. Here, I'll look it up. (Types and click briefly) It's supposed to be Garamond.</div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;"><b>Tester</b>: Yep, that's what I'm saying, it's the wrong font.</div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;"><b>Coder</b>: OK, give me a minute. (Goes to his desk, clicks and types) OK, check that when the build finishes.</div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;"><b>Tester</b>: Looks good now.</div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;">Everyone goes back to their desks and resumes whatever.</div><h1 style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;">Meaning</h1><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;">Face-to-fac
 e is not only about a face on a screen, though that is better than no face view at all. It's about being together and efficiently communicating in the now. Collaboration can happen using tools and such. And it's so much easier when the team is actually together.</div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;"></div><div style="color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px;">Yes, the business world is mostly convinced that remote, distributed and dispersed is how it must be. There is a significant cost to that model. That cost may be acceptable or even necessary. This Principle #6 reminds us of the cost we pay when we are not together.</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv0184197619yqt2523715320" id="yiv0184197619yqt84338"><div class="yiv0184197619gmail_
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      <div></div><div>Alan - can you tell us where in the Agile Manifesto, the Agile Principles or the Scrum Guide, it says that the team have to be in the same room?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think you&nbsp; may find that this 'same room' mentality&nbsp;comes from the early days of XP but the Agile movement has moved on (forgive the pun!).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have regularly coached and mentored successful Agile teams with global distribution; daily stand-ups with team, stakeholder and management members in Tokyo, Beijing, San Diego and Helsinki.&nbsp;<br clear="none" class="yiv0184197619m_1011444497448260226yui-cursor"></div><div></div>


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