Re: Re: Honestly Curious
"Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Sat, 24 Feb 2018 20:33:07 -0800
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--Apple-Mail-69395643-C0A7-490E-8DA2-8E891D76E656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don=E2=80=99t believe I said any of that, Alan. I=E2=80=99m inviting you = to share about one of these people and how they mastered the craft.=20 > On Feb 24, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Alan Dayley [email protected] [SCRUMDEV= ELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Think about writing a job description for a Scrum Master. You decide that= candidates must have a Bachelor's Degree in order to qualify. What courses= of study, what degrees would be most beneficial to the work of a Scrum Mas= ter? I don't think computer science or mathematics or various engineering d= egrees are the answer.=20 >=20 > I have known many excellent Scrum Masters who have come from project mana= gement backgrounds. A few have come from marketing or business backgrounds.= Many have come from technical fields, too. >=20 > Alan >=20 >=20 >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 2:54 PM, [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOP= MENT] <[email protected]> wrote: >>=20=20 >>=20 >> Excellent question, Michael. I used to think =E2=80=94decades into my pa= st=E2=80=94 that =E2=80=9Cthe only way=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94careful! Bigotry a= larms at full capacity here=E2=80=94 somebody could ever know and ever teac= h about something is by the sole means of direct experience. Period. Simple= .. End of discussion. >>=20 >>=20 >> Nowadays, =E2=80=94since about 28 years ago=E2=80=94, I reflect that the= subject matter of knowing and the subject matter of being able to teach or= help others turned out to be not that simple. And the discussion is wide o= pen, and the debate keeps very active among authorities on those subject ma= tters. >>=20 >>=20 >> There are cases where somebody can, in fact, learn a lot from the experi= ences reported by others and by pure sheer thought based on sound theoretic= al schemes. So, now I think that a fully functional Scrum Master =E2=80=94o= r anybody, for that matter=E2=80=94 can, in fact, help others effectively w= ithout the sole means of direct experience. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Does it make sense? >>=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-69395643-C0A7-490E-8DA2-8E891D76E656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div></div><div>I don=E2=80=99t believe I said any of that, Alan. I=E2=80= =99m inviting you to share about one of these people and how they mastered = the craft. </div><div><br>On Feb 24, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Alan Dayley <a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEV= ELOPMENT] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">SCRUMDEVE= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cit= e"><div> =20 <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr">Think about writing a job description for a S= crum Master. You decide that candidates must have a Bachelor's Degree in or= der to qualify. What courses of study, what degrees would be most beneficia= l to the work of a Scrum Master? I don't think computer science or mathemat= ics or various engineering degrees are the answer. <div><br></div><div= >I have known many excellent Scrum Masters who have come from project manag= ement backgrounds. A few have come from marketing or business backgrounds. = Many have come from technical fields, too.</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</d= iv><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_= quote">On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 2:54 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:marcodorantes@hot= mail.com">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <span dir=3D"ltr= "><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span> </span> <div id=3D"m_-5723432152935198145ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5723432152935198145ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5723432152935198145ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><span class=3D""></span></p><p>Excellent question, Michael. I used= to think =E2=80=94decades into my past=E2=80=94 that =E2=80=9Cthe only way= =E2=80=9D =E2=80=94careful! Bigotry alarms at full capacity here=E2=80=94 s= omebody could ever know and ever teach about something is by the sole means= of direct experience. Period. Simple. End of discussion.</p><p><br>Nowaday= s, =E2=80=94since about 28 years ago=E2=80=94, I reflect that the subject m= atter of knowing and the subject matter of being able to teach or help othe= rs turned out to be not that simple. And the discussion is wide open, and t= he debate keeps very active among authorities on those subject matters.</p>= <p><br>There are cases where somebody can, in fact, learn a lot from the ex= periences reported by others and by pure sheer thought based on sound theor= etical schemes. So, now I think that a fully functional Scrum Master =E2=80= =94or anybody, for that matter=E2=80=94 can, in fact, help others effective= ly without the sole means of direct experience.</p><p><br></p><p>Does it ma= ke sense?<br class=3D"m_-5723432152935198145yui-cursor"></p><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> <p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <!-- end group email --> </div></blockquote> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color: white; clear: both;"/>__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"clear:both; margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgroun= d-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Michael Wollin <[email protected]> <hr = style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3= E3;"> </div> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <!-- End Recommendations --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@eGrou= ps.com</tt> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97476590/grpId=3D1569064/grpspI= d=3D1705007709/msgId=3D58803/stime=3D1519533196" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> =20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> =20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-fam= ily: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tr= ansform: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SCRUMD= EVELOPMENT/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlc2M0b3NyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTUxOTUzMzE5Mw--" s= tyle=3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkMjdpcm90BF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNTE5NTMzMTk2" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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