RE: my two pennies
"Kent Beck" <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:48:47 -0800
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.programming.software-in-process |
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| Organization | Three Rivers Institute |
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Late specification is absolutely part of lowering SIP. That's how LifeWare gets their SIP so low--they know the general shape of all the optional workflows in life insurance contract management, so they aren't afraid to leave detailed specification and implementation until the first time a workflow is used for a particular client. Re: frequent releases of web apps. I've seen lots of fear about "at the expense of usability", but my experience of Google, to pick an exemplar, is that I actually appreciate new releases. Kent -----Original Message----- From: sentto-8007113-339-1042655982-kent=threeriversinstitute.org@returns.grou ps.yahoo.com [mailto:sentto-8007113-339-1042655982-kent=threeriversinstitute.org@retu rns.groups.yahoo.com] On Behalf Of Dierk König <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SIP] my two pennies Hiall, Frank Westphal pointed me to this group. I like the draft very much, especially the "personal" SIP. I'll try to come up with some SIP measures of our current projects - big ones and small ones. It appears to me that lowering SIP cannot only be achieved by delivering early, but also by specifying late. Can I bring it to zero by omitting specification at all? (I guess I misunderstood the concept as I remember projects that would acutally have a negative number, then. :-)) Concerning the issue of distribution and rollout costs I had a short conversation with Pete McBreen following up some claims he make in "Questioning XP". Maybe the quoted mail is helpful for some of you. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dierk Koenig [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 18:29 > To: [email protected] > Subject: questioning xp > > > Hi Pete, > > I've read your excellent book as well as "software craftsmanship" > and again enjoyed your pragmatic (read non-dogmatic) style. > > On page 125 you talk about costs of a release, pointing out that > a web application possibly has low enough costs but at the > expense of usability. > Please allow me to point you at > http://www.canoo.com/ulc > a technology that allows > - distribution and deployment characateristics like servlets > - GUI like Swing > - programming model like a Java standalone application > > I must admit that this is our product, so you may see this mail > as being inappropriate. Anyway, I think that you as a > professional see value in knowing what's available. > > happy programming > Dierk König Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=241773.2861422.4212389.1925585/D=egroupweb/S=1705 007181:HM/A=1394046/R=0/*http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/pac_ctnt/text/0,,HGTV_ 3936_5802,FF.html> HGTV Dream Home Giveaway <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=241773.2861422.4212389.1925585/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1394046/rand=873139475> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .