Re: [testdrivendevelopment] We are back on the air!

"Avi Kessner" <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Nov 2019 06:05:15 +0200
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Is this the diagram you wanted to share?

https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-of-the-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing

I would recommend making a box which is part of the flow rather than some
external dotted lines. For example, maybe the box should read, " Apply
SOLID principles" as part of the refactoring, and then before the next
failing test have something like, "design the contract"

I think the community needs more explicit direction on the design being
done in those phases.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 16:44 J. B. Rainsberger <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM Roy Osherove <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Awesome.  I sent a new thread to the group about tdd diagrams.  Was it
>> received?
>>
>
> Maybe.
>
> If you sent it to the Yahoo! group, then no.
>
> Please try again--at least until we figure out the transition. :) I want
> to see it!
> --
> J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: https://tdd.training :: http://www.jbrains.ca
> :: http://www.thecodewhisperer.com
>
> 
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Is this the diagram you wanted to share?<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/1=
2/an-updated-diagram-of-the-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-ar=
t-of-unit-testing">https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-=
of-the-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing</a>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I would recommend m=
aking a box which is part of the flow rather than some external dotted line=
s. For example, maybe the box should read, &quot; Apply SOLID principles&qu=
ot; as part of the refactoring, and then before the next failing test have =
something like, &quot;design the contract&quot;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">I think the community needs more explicit direction=
 on the design being done in those phases.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 16:44=
 J. B. Rainsberger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jbrains762@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On T=
ue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM Roy Osherove &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roy@osherov=
e.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Awesome.=C2=A0 I sent a new thread to the group ab=
out tdd diagrams.=C2=A0 Was it received?</div></div></blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div>Maybe.</div><div><br></div><div>If you sent it to the Yahoo! grou=
p, then no.</div><div><br></div><div>Please try again--at least until we fi=
gure out the transition. :) I want to see it!</div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: <a href=3D"https://t=
dd.training" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://tdd.training</a> =
:: <span><a href=3D"http://www.jbrains.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">http://www.jbrains.ca</a> :: <a href=3D"http://www.thecodewhisperer.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.thecodewhisperer.com</a>=
</span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>



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