Re: [testdrivendevelopment] "I think the community needs more explicit direction...."

I yeah refactoring a lot, and I think practice helps (shocking, I know). I =
include it in my workshops as well as in free resources on my github (https=
://github.com/ardalis/kata-catalog). I also have three different Pluralsigh=
t courses on refactoring, including the monster 8 hour course Refactoring F=
undamentals. Anyone can access these with a trial account and most enterpri=
se shops I talk to have subscriptions for their folks.

But to JB=E2=80=99s point, I do think it=E2=80=99s a part of TDD that newe=
r devs lack confidence and probably skill to perform, at least until they g=
ain experience with it.

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> On Nov 24, 2019, at 17:14, Hassan Schroeder <[email protected]>=
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> =EF=BB=BFOn Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 1:40 PM Charles Gallo <Charlie@thegallo=
s.com> wrote:
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>> Place after place I=E2=80=99ve been in has a small to mid sized collect=
ion of tests, that are either not maintained, not run, or not added to, and=
 when you do start adding, management complains.
>> I=E2=80=99ve never been to a place that does more than pay lip service
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> Ouch, that sucks. I'm part of a smallish team, but we deploy via CI/CD
> and if any of the test suite, code coverage minimum, linter, or typespec
> checker fails, it doesn't go out.
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> We reject PRs for not having adequate tests, and recognize people
> for expanding coverage of existing code.
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> My condolences on your past employment situations :-)
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> Hassan Schroeder ------------------------ [email protected]
> twitter: @hassan
> Consulting Availability : Silicon Valley or remote
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