Re: [testdrivendevelopment] "I think the community needs more explicit direction...."
"Steve Gordon" <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Nov 2019 10:27:19 -0700
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--00000000000018f25b05982f14da Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Wouldn't pairing with them work better than code reviews? If not, why not? On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:16 AM Avi Kessner <[email protected]> wrote: > We hire a lot of developers straight out of school or working less than 3 > years. > > From what I have seen, TDD is viewed as a skill used on Greenfield > projects, and refactoring is seen as something you do with legacy code. > (And still gets confused with 'throw it away and start over') > > I have to have more than one code review with them until it clicks that > you do both together, always. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35772): https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/message/35772 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/61850834/3268755 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/leave/6156322/744556386/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --00000000000018f25b05982f14da Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wouldn't pairing with them work better than code = reviews?=C2=A0 If not, why not?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di= r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:16 AM Avi Kessner= <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote= :<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"au= to">We hire a lot of developers straight out of school or working less than= 3 years.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">From what I have see= n, TDD is viewed as a skill used on Greenfield projects, and refactoring is= seen as something you do with legacy code. (And still gets confused with &= #39;throw it away and start over')</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di= v dir=3D"auto">I have to have more than one code review with them until it = clicks that you do both together, always.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_qu= ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div></div> <p></p><p></p></blockquote></div></div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/mes= sage/35772">View/Reply Online (#35772)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subj= ect=3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5Btestdrivendevelopment%5D%20%22I%20think%20the%20comm= unity%20needs%20more%20explicit%20direction....%22">Reply To Group</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DP= rivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Btestdrivendevelopment%5D%20%22I%20think%20the%20= community%20needs%20more%20explicit%20direction....%22">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/61850834/3268755">Mu= te This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/post">New Topic</a>= <br> <br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/editsub/3268755">Your= Subscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Own= er</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/testdrivendevelopment/leave/6156322/7445563= 86/xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --00000000000018f25b05982f14da--