Re: [TFUI] What's wrong with Struts?

"Phlip" <[email protected]> Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:55:50 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.test-first-user-interfaces
Message-ID <006f01c5bd21$dc217dc0$0100a8c0@Marley>
Dave Rooney wrote:

> Craig McClanahan doesn't seem to get the concept of interfaces.

Ouch. Under static typing they make Mock Objects tractable.

> ... We try to move as much
> functionality out of the Actions into simple helper classes.  Also, we
> found that there isn't an easy way to represent the view in a form
> that's testable.
>
> There is StrutsTestCase, but we couldn't use it, and the reason why
> escapes me for the moment.

Repressed?

Technically, I can't figure out if it will mock the server, or will serve 
the pages and intercept them with HttpUnit. And while trying to learn that, 
I'm stuck in a Vicious Cycle of Incomprehensible Error Messages from any of 
the several layers involved. Expensive setup is a design smell.

Humble Dialog Box to the rescue!

> If you aren't doing TDD, then Struts is a great way to get a web
> application started and running.  However, it really doesn't lend itself
> to TDD or even unit testing very well.  IME, at least.

There are those who think libraries that resist TDD will not survive our 
little revolution in their current form.

-- 
  Phlip
  http://www.greencheese.org/ZeekLand  <-- NOT a blog!!!



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