Re: [TFUI] comments on my first chapter

yahoogroups-1e+8sjoZAN9Wk0Htik3J/[email protected] Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:47:35 -0600
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From: "Ron Jeffries" 
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Subject: Re: [TFUI] comments on my first chapter


> On Wednesday, April 19, 2006, at 8:50:57 PM, yahoogroups-1e+8sjoZAN9Wk0Htik3J/[email protected] 
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>>> You'll probably recall an effort by Dave Astels and some others to
>>> rename TDD to Behavior-Driven Development or some such, to avoid
>>> this new use of the word "test", which seems to confuse some
>>> readers.
>
>> They have a quite nice little rewrite of xUnit for Ruby named
>> RSpec that puts these ideas into practice. It's on RubyForge.
>> I put together a Python version of the core that I've integrated
>> into my test harness for PyFit although I haven't used it enough
>> to see whether it's going to be worth it, or whether it's just
>> an intriguing idea that doesn't pull its weight.
>
> I'll be interested to hear what you discover. My intuition is that
> it's "just" different words ... but that can be important.

In my last spate of test-writing I made two changes: I made
a change to unittest (Python's xUnit) so that I could name
methods anything I wanted (no keywords like test), and also
went with small test classes.

It went a _lot_ better, but I don't know which change to
credit. I think the small test classes.

John Roth
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