Re: Tasks

On 21/02/2004, at 12:09 AM, Alex Martelli wrote:

> On Friday 20 February 2004 01:27 pm, Matthew Schinckel wrote:
>    ...
>> There is already a group of (apple supplied?) shared libraries that
>> provide a Carbon interface.  This is on standard python OSX install.
>
> I think you mean CoreGraphics?  That's more like Quartz, lower level 
> than
> Carbon.  Or what else do you mean...?
>
Try (within python):

from Carbon import Win, Windows
win = Win.CreateNewWindow(6, 0, (10,50,150,180))
win.MacShowWindow()

(you'll need to Ctrl-D to exit - i can't figure out how to get the 
window to receive mouse-clicks, yet)

>> I need to source the Learning Carbon and/or Learning Cocoa books from
>> O'Reilly, since I can't stay connected to the internet to look at
>> Apple's docs all day and night.
>
> When you install Apple's free Developer Tools you get all the docs 
> installed
> too, and can read them on your Mac.  I downloaded the 600 MB of the 
> latest
> XCode CD (a bit more updated than what you get with Panther itself, 
> 1.1 I
> believe).  But whether you get that or the plain Developer Tools CD 
> that
> comes with Panther, install it and start reading 
> /Developer/Documentation/* .
> Budget a couple months...:).
>

Yeah, I found the docs.  Stupid me to miss them.

I'm (see my reply to Magnus here) working by comparing Carbon to BeOS, 
in terms of the API.

>> Someone has created a Python thingo for Xcode, Apple's Development
>> Environment.  This might allow for direct creation of MacOS X apps in
>> python! (Sorry, i got excited about that bit!)
>
> URL?  I haven't heard about this one...
>

Sorry.  Here you go:

http://pythonmac.org/wiki/XcodeIntegration
http://www.ulaluma.com/pyx/archives/000956.html

I don't actually know how to use Xcode, or most IDEs really.  I cut my 
C teeth under a pure CLI unix interface 10 years ago, and since I don't 
code for a living (I'm a high school teacher, and mainly teach CAD), 
haven't really bothered to improve my skills, other than to learn 
python.

>> Apple have included stuff for Quartz access, which allows for graphics
>> handling, but, IIUC (if I understand correctly) not for UI stuff.
>
> The CoreGraphics, again?  Right, i don't think you get UI events there.

Yeah, I found a link to a guy who used Python/Quartz for image 
manipulation - there wasn't much info on the site, but look in:

/Developer/Examples/Quartz/Python/

(After actually looking in there, yes, CoreGraphics stuff

I don't like they way Apple use Deutschesprechen (combining words with 
stuff, like kCGLineCapRound), it doesn't look pythonic to me...

Matt.
-- 
Matt Schinckel <[email protected]>



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