Re: Big change to IDLE Shell

Mark Roseman <[email protected]> Mon, 24 May 2021 08:09:40 -0700
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On May -20- 2021, at 2:19 PM, Tal Einat <[email protected]> wrote:
> In recent years Terry J. Reedy has taken the lead on IDLE. Terry has
> been doing a fantastic job of moving IDLE forward while also fixing
> many bugs and making it more robust. He's also been very responsible
> in deciding which changes to make. Thanks to his stewardship, I think
> now is the best time in the past 15 years or so to attempt to bring
> such improvements into IDLE proper.
>=20
> I encourage you to try! Start with something significant, but not
> huge. Perhaps discuss this with us in advance, so that we can decide
> together what we'd like done and on the general approach, to avoid
> working a lot on something that is eventually rejected (I've gone
> through that too many times!).


Thanks for your advice Tal.

Here are a couple of longstanding things (dating from 2015) that I=E2=80=99=
d love to see move forward:

1. Improve appearance, =04get rid of modal behaviour in about dialog
	https://bugs.python.org/issue24813 =
<https://bugs.python.org/issue24813>

2. Improve debugger UI
	https://bugs.python.org/issue17942 =
<https://bugs.python.org/issue17942>

Both of these have mockups done, patches (now very outdated), and what =
appears to be some early agreement that the basic ideas at least would =
be worth pursuing. Both are currently stalled.

Terry (and others), are these things you=E2=80=99d still like to see =
move forward? What steps would be necessary for these to be completed =
and integrated?

Mark












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wrote:<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">In recent years Terry J. Reedy has taken the =
lead on IDLE. Terry has<br class=3D"">been doing a fantastic job of =
moving IDLE forward while also fixing<br class=3D"">many bugs and making =
it more robust. He's also been very responsible<br class=3D"">in =
deciding which changes to make. Thanks to his stewardship, I think<br =
class=3D"">now is the best time in the past 15 years or so to attempt to =
bring<br class=3D"">such improvements into IDLE proper.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I encourage you to try! Start with something significant, but =
not<br class=3D"">huge. Perhaps discuss this with us in advance, so that =
we can decide<br class=3D"">together what we'd like done and on the =
general approach, to avoid<br class=3D"">working a lot on something that =
is eventually rejected (I've gone<br class=3D"">through that too many =
times!).<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Thanks for your advice =
Tal.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Here are a couple of =
longstanding things (dating from 2015) that I=E2=80=99d love to see move =
forward:</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>1. Improve appearance, =04get=
 rid of modal behaviour in about dialog</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><a =
href=3D"https://bugs.python.org/issue24813" =
class=3D"">https://bugs.python.org/issue24813</a></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>2. Improve debugger UI</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><a =
href=3D"https://bugs.python.org/issue17942" =
class=3D"">https://bugs.python.org/issue17942</a></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Both of these have mockups done, patches (now very =
outdated), and what appears to be some early agreement that the basic =
ideas at least would be worth pursuing. Both are currently =
stalled.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Terry (and others), are =
these things you=E2=80=99d still like to see move forward? What steps =
would be necessary for these to be completed and =
integrated?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Mark</div><div><br =
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