Re: A modest proposal

Carl Kleffner via NumPy-Discussion <[email protected]> Tue, 12 May 2026 10:25:35 +0200
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There are some niche Windows 32-bit applications I'm aware of. However,
none of theses are related to scientific computing. Two
scipy  questionaries related to this topic:
releasing-or-not-32-bit-windows-wheels
<https://discuss.scientific-python.org/t/releasing-or-not-32-bit-windows-wh=
eels/282>
 and Poll: availability for 32bit Windows scipy binaries in future
<https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/16286> raised no red flags
concerning removing 32-bit. And these inquiries were made almost four years
ago!

There is only one webassembly support (pyidide, pyscript) which may be in
some form relevant to this question, as wasm32 is still the dominant
platform.

Cheers

Carl

Am Di., 12. Mai 2026 um 09:34 Uhr schrieb Matthew Brett via
NumPy-Discussion <[email protected]>:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 6:52=E2=80=AFAM matti picus via NumPy-Discussion
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:42=E2=80=AFAM Charles R Harris via NumPy-Disc=
ussion
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose dropping 32 bit windows support in the NumPy
> 2.6 branch. It is time, Steam is dropping support, and most downstream
> projects dropped support some time ago. We can still test it, perhaps, bu=
t
> the world isn't going that way.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> >
> > +1 from me
> > Matti
>
> Worth floating with Steve Dower?  https://stevedower.id.au/about ;
> https://github.com/zooba
>
> I seem to remember him saying, quite a few years ago, that 32-bit
> Windows was in practice only important for Windows ARM users running
> the 32-bit Intel binaries under emulation.  Now there are Windows ARM
> wheels (and CI), so I bet that there are a very small number of people
> who need these.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>There are some niche Windows 32-bit applications I&#3=
9;m aware of. However, none of theses are related to scientific=C2=A0comput=
ing. Two scipy=C2=A0=C2=A0questionaries related to this topic:=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://discuss.scientific-python.org/t/releasing-or-not-32-bit-windows=
-wheels/282">releasing-or-not-32-bit-windows-wheels</a>=C2=A0and=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/16286">Poll: availability for 3=
2bit Windows scipy binaries in future</a>=C2=A0raised no red flags concerni=
ng removing 32-bit.=C2=A0And these inquiries were made almost four years ag=
o!</div><div><br></div><div>There is only one webassembly support (pyidide,=
 pyscript) which may be in some form relevant to this question, as wasm32 i=
s still the dominant platform.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Carl</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_cont=
ainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Am Di., 12. Mai 2026 um 09:34=
=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Matthew Brett via NumPy-Discussion &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 6:52=E2=80=AFAM matti picus via NumPy-Discussion<br=
>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">numpy-=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:42=E2=80=AFAM Charles R Harris via NumPy-Dis=
cussion<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">n=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I would like to propose dropping 32 bit windows support in the Nu=
mPy 2.6 branch. It is time, Steam is dropping support, and most downstream =
projects dropped support some time ago. We can still test it, perhaps, but =
the world isn&#39;t going that way.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Chuck<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; +1 from me<br>
&gt; Matti<br>
<br>
Worth floating with Steve Dower?=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://stevedower.id.au/=
about" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://stevedower.id.au/about<=
/a> ;<br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/zooba" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://github.com/zooba</a><br>
<br>
I seem to remember him saying, quite a few years ago, that 32-bit<br>
Windows was in practice only important for Windows ARM users running<br>
the 32-bit Intel binaries under emulation.=C2=A0 Now there are Windows ARM<=
br>
wheels (and CI), so I bet that there are a very small number of people<br>
who need these.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Matthew<br>
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