Re: Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI - childwindows within a window)
Alec Bennett <[email protected]> Sat, 2 Apr 2011 22:05:51 -0700
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--===============4884758668729725523== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51d226ad0cce4049ffc985b --bcaec51d226ad0cce4049ffc985b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just wanted to chime in that I too love PythonCard. I started using it before I knew how to code in wxPython, and now that I'm pretty comfortable in wxPython I still use and love PythonCard, especially for quickies. I'd love to see more development done on it, and since at the moment I don't have any time, would be more than willing to donate some $$ if that was the sort of thing that might help make it worthwhile for someone to work a new release with these new features. On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > I evaluated Dado and yes, for what it does, it does it very well. For > myself, > I > don't need database features. I just need simple User Interfacing. For > that, > Pythoncard fits my bill. I've probe around Pythoncard enough that if I > need a > new control, I can crank one out without too much trouble (exact the ones I > couldn't get working - as listed in previous emails). > > I believe for most people that just need quick User Interfacing type of > applications, Pythoncard remains a viable option. I've benefited greatly > from > Pythoncard and so within my limited ability, I am happy that I can > contribute > (a > little) > -- > John Henry > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Peter Decker <[email protected]> > > To: Kael Fischer <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI > - > >childwindows within a window) > > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Kael Fischer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Python card is great. > > > > > > But I caution people stating out on large computationally or database > > > intensive projects that while pythoncard makes the easy stuff very > > > easy, it makes that hard stuff harder. Note that even using wxPython > > > getting the process-based and thread-based multitasking working > > > properly can be hard and is essential in any program that uses the > > > cpu, disk and network intensively and still needs wx to be responsive, > > > draw progress bars, etc. > > > > > > I'm warning about big data here (for a GUI anyway): trees with > > > 1000's-10,000's of nodes, grid data stores with ~1M cells. > > > > > > I've written some cool programs in python card, but they never scaled > well. > > > > I used PythonCard for a few projects, and was impressed by how easy it > > was to put together a simple app. But I know exactly what you mean > > about scaling. And while I don't do heavy database apps, I do have to > > save settings, configurations, etc., and this was a very manual > > process in PythonCard. > > > > After I discovered Dabo a few years ago, I have only used PythonCard > > occasionally, and each time I find myself missing Dabo. It's a much > > cleaner wrapper around wxPython, and it comes with data binding built > > in. And to get back to the subject, MDI forms have been a part of Dabo > > since the beginning. > > > > Dabo is still being actively developed, and its user base is growing > > all the time. You should definitely give it a try (and no, they don't > > pay me to say this! I'm just a big fan!). http://dabodev.com > > > > -- > > > > # p.d. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Pythoncard-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > _______________________________________________ > Pythoncard-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users > --bcaec51d226ad0cce4049ffc985b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to chime in that I too love PythonCard. I started using it befo= re I knew how to code in wxPython, and now that I'm pretty comfortable = in wxPython I still use and love PythonCard, especially for quickies.<br> <br>I'd love to see more development done on it, and since at the momen= t I don't have any time, would be more than willing to donate some $$ i= f that was the sort of thing that might help make it worthwhile for someone= to work a new release with these new features.<br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 2, 2= 011 at 9:47 PM, John Henry <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ecs1749@= yahoo.com">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb= (204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I evaluated Dado and yes, for what it does, it does it very well. =A0For my= self,<br> I<br> don't need database features. =A0I just need simple User Interfacing. = =A0For that,<br> Pythoncard fits my bill. =A0I've probe around Pythoncard enough that if= I need a<br> new control, I can crank one out without too much trouble (exact the ones I= <br> couldn't get working - as listed in previous emails).<br> <br> I believe for most people that just need quick User Interfacing type of<br> applications, Pythoncard remains a viable option. =A0I've benefited gre= atly from<br> Pythoncard and so within my limited ability, I am happy that I can contribu= te<br> (a<br> little)<br> =A0--<br> <font color=3D"#888888">John Henry<br> </font><div class=3D"im"><br> <br> <br> ----- Original Message ----<br> > From: Peter Decker <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">pydecker@= gmail.com</a>><br> > To: Kael Fischer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">kael.fi= [email protected]</a>><br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">pythonca= [email protected]</a><br> > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:24 AM<br> > Subject: Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was M= DI -<br> >childwindows within a window)<br> ><br> </div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM= , Kael Fischer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">kael.fischer@g= mail.com</a>> =A0wrote:<br> > > Python card is great.<br> > ><br> > > But I =A0caution people =A0stating out on large computationally o= r database<br> > > intensive projects that =A0while pythoncard makes the easy stuff = very<br> > > easy, it makes that hard =A0stuff harder. =A0Note that even using= wxPython<br> > > getting the process-based =A0and thread-based multitasking workin= g<br> > > properly can be hard and is =A0essential in any program that uses= the<br> > > cpu, disk and network intensively =A0and still needs wx to be res= ponsive,<br> > > draw progress bars, =A0etc.<br> > ><br> > > I'm warning about big data here (for a GUI anyway): trees =A0= with<br> > > 1000's-10,000's of nodes, grid data stores with ~1M =A0ce= lls.<br> > ><br> > > I've written some cool programs in python card, but they =A0n= ever scaled well.<br> ><br> > I used PythonCard for a few projects, and was =A0impressed by how easy= it<br> > was to put together a simple app. But I know exactly =A0what you mean<= br> > about scaling. And while I don't do heavy database apps, I do =A0h= ave to<br> > save settings, configurations, etc., and this was a very =A0manual<br> > process in PythonCard.<br> ><br> > After I discovered Dabo a few years ago, =A0I have only used PythonCar= d<br> > occasionally, and each time I find myself missing =A0Dabo. It's a = much<br> > cleaner wrapper around wxPython, and it comes with data =A0binding bui= lt<br> > in. And to get back to the subject, MDI forms have been a part =A0of D= abo<br> > since the beginning.<br> ><br> > Dabo is still being actively developed, =A0and its user base is growin= g<br> > all the time. You should definitely give it a =A0try (and no, they don= 't<br> > pay me to say this! I'm just a big fan!). =A0<a href=3D"http://dab= odev.com" target=3D"_blank">http://dabodev.com</a><br> ><br> > --<br> ><br> > # =A0p.d.<br> ><br> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------<br> > Create =A0and publish websites with WebMatrix<br> > Use the most popular FREE web apps or =A0write code yourself;<br> > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop =A0and<br> > publish your website. =A0<a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-s= f" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Pythoncard-users =A0mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Pythoncard-u= [email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-use= rs" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythonca= rd-users</a><br> ><br> <br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---<br> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix<br> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself;<br> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and<br> publish your website. <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf" targe= t=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> Pythoncard-users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Pythoncard-users@= lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users" t= arget=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-us= ers</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> --bcaec51d226ad0cce4049ffc985b-- --===============4884758668729725523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf --===============4884758668729725523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Pythoncard-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users --===============4884758668729725523==--