Re: Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI - childwindows within a window)
John Henry <[email protected]> Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
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--===============7314562734048903469== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2070404288-1301871913=:33454" --0-2070404288-1301871913=:33454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's nice. May be the owner can be motivated. Anyway, I uploaded my mode for supporting MDI at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=19015&atid=369015 If interested, please give it a try and let me know if it works for you or not. -- John Henry > >From: Alec Bennett <[email protected]> >To: John Henry <[email protected]> >Cc: John Henry <[email protected]>; [email protected] >Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:05:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI - >childwindows within a window) > >Just wanted to chime in that I too love PythonCard. I started using it before I >knew how to code in wxPython, and now that I'm pretty comfortable in wxPython I >still use and love PythonCard, especially for quickies. > >I'd love to see more development done on it, and since at the moment I don't >have any time, would be more than willing to donate some $$ if that was the sort >of thing that might help make it worthwhile for someone to work a new release >with these new features. > > > > > > > > > >On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > >I evaluated Dado and yes, for what it does, it does it very well. For myself, >>I >>don't need database features. I just need simple User Interfacing. For that, >>Pythoncard fits my bill. I've probe around Pythoncard enough that if I need a >>new control, I can crank one out without too much trouble (exact the ones I >>couldn't get working - as listed in previous emails). >> >>I believe for most people that just need quick User Interfacing type of >>applications, Pythoncard remains a viable option. I've benefited greatly from >>Pythoncard and so within my limited ability, I am happy that I can contribute >>(a >>little) >> -- >>John Henry >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Peter Decker <[email protected]> >>> To: Kael Fischer <[email protected]> >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:24 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI - >>>childwindows within a window) >>> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Kael Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Python card is great. >>> > >>> > But I caution people stating out on large computationally or database >>> > intensive projects that while pythoncard makes the easy stuff very >>> > easy, it makes that hard stuff harder. Note that even using wxPython >>> > getting the process-based and thread-based multitasking working >>> > properly can be hard and is essential in any program that uses the >>> > cpu, disk and network intensively and still needs wx to be responsive, >>> > draw progress bars, etc. >>> > >>> > I'm warning about big data here (for a GUI anyway): trees with >>> > 1000's-10,000's of nodes, grid data stores with ~1M cells. >>> > >>> > I've written some cool programs in python card, but they never scaled >well. >>> >>> I used PythonCard for a few projects, and was impressed by how easy it >>> was to put together a simple app. But I know exactly what you mean >>> about scaling. And while I don't do heavy database apps, I do have to >>> save settings, configurations, etc., and this was a very manual >>> process in PythonCard. >>> >>> After I discovered Dabo a few years ago, I have only used PythonCard >>> occasionally, and each time I find myself missing Dabo. It's a much >>> cleaner wrapper around wxPython, and it comes with data binding built >>> in. And to get back to the subject, MDI forms have been a part of Dabo >>> since the beginning. >>> >>> Dabo is still being actively developed, and its user base is growing >>> all the time. You should definitely give it a try (and no, they don't >>> pay me to say this! I'm just a big fan!). http://dabodev.com >>> >>> -- >>> >>> # p.d. >>> >>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; >>> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and >>> publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pythoncard-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users >>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; >>WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and >>publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf >>_______________________________________________ >>Pythoncard-users mailing list >>[email protected] >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users >> > --0-2070404288-1301871913=:33454 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>That's nice. May be the owner can be motivated. <img src="http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/29.gif"></div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I uploaded my mode for supporting MDI at <a href="https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=19015&atid=369015">https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=19015&atid=369015</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=19015&atid=369015"></a>If interested, please give it a try and let me know if it works for you or not.<br> </div>--<br>John Henry<div><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alec Bennett <[email protected]><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> John Henry <[email protected]><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> John Henry <[email protected]>; [email protected]<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, April 2, 2011 10:05:51 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI - childwindows within a window)<br></font><br> <meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off">Just wanted to chime in that I too love PythonCard. I started using it before I knew how to code in wxPython, and now that I'm pretty comfortable in wxPython I still use and love PythonCard, especially for quickies.<br> <br>I'd love to see more development done on it, and since at the moment I don't have any time, would be more than willing to donate some $$ if that was the sort of thing that might help make it worthwhile for someone to work a new release with these new features.<br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Henry <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"> I evaluated Dado and yes, for what it does, it does it very well. For myself,<br> I<br> don't need database features. I just need simple User Interfacing. For that,<br> Pythoncard fits my bill. I've probe around Pythoncard enough that if I need a<br> new control, I can crank one out without too much trouble (exact the ones I<br> couldn't get working - as listed in previous emails).<br> <br> I believe for most people that just need quick User Interfacing type of<br> applications, Pythoncard remains a viable option. I've benefited greatly from<br> Pythoncard and so within my limited ability, I am happy that I can contribute<br> (a<br> little)<br> --<br> <font color="#888888">John Henry<br> </font><div class="im"><br> <br> <br> ----- Original Message ----<br> > From: Peter Decker <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>><br> > To: Kael Fischer <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>><br> > Cc: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:24 AM<br> > Subject: Re: [Pythoncard-users] Added MDI support to Pythoncard (was MDI -<br> >childwindows within a window)<br> ><br> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Kael Fischer <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > > Python card is great.<br> > ><br> > > But I caution people stating out on large computationally or database<br> > > intensive projects that while pythoncard makes the easy stuff very<br> > > easy, it makes that hard stuff harder. Note that even using wxPython<br> > > getting the process-based and thread-based multitasking working<br> > > properly can be hard and is essential in any program that uses the<br> > > cpu, disk and network intensively and still needs wx to be responsive,<br> > > draw progress bars, etc.<br> > ><br> > > I'm warning about big data here (for a GUI anyway): trees with<br> > > 1000's-10,000's of nodes, grid data stores with ~1M cells.<br> > ><br> > > I've written some cool programs in python card, but they never scaled well.<br> ><br> > I used PythonCard for a few projects, and was impressed by how easy it<br> > was to put together a simple app. But I know exactly what you mean<br> > about scaling. And while I don't do heavy database apps, I do have to<br> > save settings, configurations, etc., and this was a very manual<br> > process in PythonCard.<br> ><br> > After I discovered Dabo a few years ago, I have only used PythonCard<br> > occasionally, and each time I find myself missing Dabo. It's a much<br> > cleaner wrapper around wxPython, and it comes with data binding built<br> > in. And to get back to the subject, MDI forms have been a part of Dabo<br> > since the beginning.<br> ><br> > Dabo is still being actively developed, and its user base is growing<br> > all the time. You should definitely give it a try (and no, they don't<br><span> > pay me to say this! I'm just a big fan!). <a target="_blank" href="http://dabodev.com">http://dabodev.com</a></span><br> ><br> > --<br> ><br> > # p.d.<br> ><br> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix<br> > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself;<br> > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and<br><span> > publish your website. <a target="_blank" href="http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf">http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf</a></span><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Pythoncard-users mailing list<br> > <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users</a><br> ><br> <br> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix<br> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself;<br> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and<br> publish your website. <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf">http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> Pythoncard-users mailing list<br> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> <meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="on"></div></div></blockquote><div style="position:fixed"></div> </div></body></html> --0-2070404288-1301871913=:33454-- --===============7314562734048903469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf --===============7314562734048903469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Pythoncard-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users --===============7314562734048903469==--