Re: tests split off from scipy package in conda-forge

I think that's pretty much the same thing as removing the test sources from
default distribution completely, which I'm probably -1 on, but happy to
lose that debate if the majority prefer it... I just don't see the
bandwidth benefit as justified for non-data assets, but I realize others
disagree.

On Sun, 28 May 2023 at 14:10, Ilhan Polat <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think the common ground might be using python "optional dependencies"
> [1] such that only interested parties install it and the rest can skip the
> extra network payload. You can then install "pip/conda install scipy[full]"
> or whatever the syntax might be.
>
> [1] :
> https://setuptools.pypa.io/en/latest/userguide/dependency_management.html#optional-dependencies
>
> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:00 PM Tyler Reddy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I'm in favor of moving large data assets out, but my preference
>> would be to always have the sources of tests in the main repo. The debates
>> about this
>> aren't super interesting/fun, but anyway that's where I land on it, even
>> if the project goes in another direction.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Tyler
>>
>> On Sat, 13 May 2023 at 05:07, Ralf Gommers <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is an FYI that in conda-forge, thanks to the hard work of
>>> @h-vetinari [1], the `scipy` package now no longer contains tests. Instead,
>>> those are split off into a new `scipy-tests` package which, when you
>>> install that, puts all the test files back inside the `scipy` package tree.
>>>
>>> The gain of that exercise was a ~30% size reduction, which seems worth
>>> it. We already had plans to do something similar in SciPy itself, by
>>> putting the heavy data files from the test suite under `scipy.datasets`.
>>> The gain of that will be less, probably 15-20% of the total size of wheels
>>> (excluding vendored openblas et al.). The conda-forge packages are a nice
>>> test case - if we receive no complaints from that, it should be pretty safe
>>> to move forward with that plan.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/conda-forge/scipy-feedstock/pull/184
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