Re: tests split off from scipy package in conda-forge

No, not really :) I really don't have any opinions on it. I like how
FastAPI uses that machinery to avoid full installations hence my comment.

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:15 PM Tyler Reddy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I think that's pretty much the same thing as removing the test sources
> from default distribution completely, which I'm probably -1 on, but happy
> to lose that debate if the majority prefer it... I just don't see the
> bandwidth benefit as justified for non-data assets, but I realize others
> disagree.
>
> On Sun, 28 May 2023 at 14:10, Ilhan Polat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think the common ground might be using python "optional dependencies"
>> [1] such that only interested parties install it and the rest can skip the
>> extra network payload. You can then install "pip/conda install scipy[full]"
>> or whatever the syntax might be.
>>
>> [1] :
>> https://setuptools.pypa.io/en/latest/userguide/dependency_management.html#optional-dependencies
>>
>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:00 PM Tyler Reddy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I'm in favor of moving large data assets out, but my preference
>>> would be to always have the sources of tests in the main repo. The debates
>>> about this
>>> aren't super interesting/fun, but anyway that's where I land on it, even
>>> if the project goes in another direction.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 May 2023 at 05:07, Ralf Gommers <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This is an FYI that in conda-forge, thanks to the hard work of
>>>> @h-vetinari [1], the `scipy` package now no longer contains tests. Instead,
>>>> those are split off into a new `scipy-tests` package which, when you
>>>> install that, puts all the test files back inside the `scipy` package tree.
>>>>
>>>> The gain of that exercise was a ~30% size reduction, which seems worth
>>>> it. We already had plans to do something similar in SciPy itself, by
>>>> putting the heavy data files from the test suite under `scipy.datasets`.
>>>> The gain of that will be less, probably 15-20% of the total size of wheels
>>>> (excluding vendored openblas et al.). The conda-forge packages are a nice
>>>> test case - if we receive no complaints from that, it should be pretty safe
>>>> to move forward with that plan.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ralf
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/conda-forge/scipy-feedstock/pull/184
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