Re: Pygeo
kirby urner <[email protected]> Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:00:57 -0700
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--===============7953565198214836218== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f38deee5fe904e0cbaaad --20cf307f38deee5fe904e0cbaaad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Francisco seems to have picked very recent or current versions of everything which to me indicates he's serious about bringing Arthur's code forward. As Bruce points out, unless he has already gone to serious lengths to somehow overhaul the code, it's likely to also run in a 2.7 environment with this change to make it forward compatible: from __future__ import division, print_function My guess is getting Python 3.2 + Visual 5.74 working smoothly *before* trying to run Arthur's program with those tools would be a good strategy i.e. make sure the demos work and that you have a working Vpython environment. Then add Arthur's code as a package under site-packages (but I forget if it was really that simple an architecture -- I'm pretty sure it was). Another group you might post to about this work is [email protected] -- that's where Arthur himself used to do a lot of posting, his writings easily findable in the archive. I'd say Arthur's passion was projective geometry more than Python / VPython per se. He looked long and hard for the tools that would enable him to express his vision and Python / VPython was what came closest, but he was always critical of what he perceived as shortcomings. I see Arthur as a pioneer, going deeply into a synergy (projective geometry + computer programming) that relatively few have explored to date, since both are specialized subjects and one tends to be strong in either one or the other. Given he was an amateur with a background in finance, I think Arthur's being relatively "weak" in both, compared to an expert in either, is what enabled him to take it as far as he did. He grew strong in a new way. A trailblazer. Kirby On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Joel Kahn <jj2kk4-/[email protected]> wrote: > Some of you may remember Pygeo, the project started by the late Arthur > Siegel > and orphaned after his untimely passing. A guy in Spain, Francisco Gracia, > is > taking a stab at updating the project, and I'm attempting to help. He put > together > an alpha version of his first effort, and he's sent me a copy. In order > for me to > even try to look at it properly, I'll need to have the same environment on > my > computer that he used to construct his upgrade. > > Here's where it gets interesting. He emailed me these specs: Python 3.3.2, > Numpy 1.7.1, and visual 5.72. Needless to say, this doesn't exactly match > what's > currently available for download. The closest thing I've found is Python > 3.3 with > VPython 5.74. I don't have the foggiest about the Numpy version involved. > If that's the best I can get, I could certainly give it a whirl; however, > given the > shakiness of the whole situation, I'd definitely rather not bring in even > small > incompatibilitiesif I can help it. > > > I encourage any ideas, comments, suggestions, info, &c that anyone wants to > toss in. If somebody desires to join the Pygeo effort, I'll certainly > welcome it-- > especially if you're better qualified, which I'm sure many of you would be. > Maybe a class project for ambitious students? > > > If you'd like to contact Francisco Gracia directly, here's his address: > > [email protected] > > > Thanks in advance for help. > > Joel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Visualpython-users mailing list > Visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/visualpython-users > --20cf307f38deee5fe904e0cbaaad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div>Francisco seems to have picked very recent = or current versions of everything which to me indicates he's serious ab= out bringing Arthur's code forward. =A0<div><br></div><div>As Bruce poi= nts out, unless he has already gone to serious lengths to somehow overhaul = the code, it's likely to also run in a 2.7 environment with this change= to make it forward compatible:<div> <br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727= 272033691406px">from __future__ import division, print_function</span></div= ><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"= arial, sans-serif">My guess is getting Python 3.2 + Visual 5.74 working smo= othly *before* trying to run Arthur's program with those tools would be= a good strategy i.e. make sure the demos work and that you have a working = Vpython environment.</font></div> <div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"a= rial, sans-serif">Then add Arthur's code as a package under site-packag= es (but I forget if it was really that simple an architecture -- I'm pr= etty sure it was).</font></div> <div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"a= rial, sans-serif">Another group you might post to about this work is <a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> -- that's where = Arthur himself used to do a lot of posting, his writings easily findable in= the archive.</font></div> <div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font fac= e=3D"arial, sans-serif">I'd say Arthur's passion was projective geo= metry more than Python / VPython per se. =A0He looked long and hard for the= tools that would enable him to express his vision and Python / VPython was= what came closest, but he was always critical of what he perceived as shor= tcomings.</font></div> <div style><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><fo= nt face=3D"arial, sans-serif">I see Arthur as a pioneer, going deeply into = a synergy (projective geometry + computer programming) that relatively few = have explored to date, since both are specialized subjects and one tends to= be strong in either one or the other. =A0</font></div> <div style><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><fo= nt face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Given he was an amateur with a background in = finance, I think Arthur's being relatively "weak" in both, co= mpared to an expert in either, is what enabled him to take it as far as he = did. =A0He grew strong in a new way. =A0A trailblazer.</font></div> <div style><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><fo= nt face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Kirby</font></div><div style><br></div><div><= font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><= br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Joel Kahn <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D= "mailto:jj2kk4-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jj2kk4-/[email protected]</a>></span>= wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-st= yle:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Some of you may remember Pygeo, the project started by the late Arthur Sieg= el<br> and orphaned after his untimely passing. A guy in Spain, Francisco Gracia, = is<br> taking a stab at updating the project, and I'm attempting to help. He p= ut together<br> an alpha version of his first effort, and he's sent me a copy. In order= for me to<br> even try to look at it properly, I'll need to have the same environment= on my<br> computer that he used to construct his upgrade.<br> <br> Here's where it gets interesting. He emailed me these specs: Python 3.3= .2,<br> Numpy 1.7.1, and visual 5.72. Needless to say, this doesn't exactly mat= ch what's<br> currently available for download. The closest thing I've found is Pytho= n 3.3 with<br> VPython 5.74. I don't have the foggiest about the Numpy version involve= d.<br> If that's the best I can get, I could certainly give it a whirl; howeve= r, given the<br> shakiness of the whole situation, I'd definitely rather not bring in ev= en small<br> incompatibilitiesif I can help it.<br> <br> <br> I encourage any ideas, comments, suggestions, info, &c that anyone want= s to<br> toss in. If somebody desires to join the Pygeo effort, I'll certainly w= elcome it--<br> especially if you're better qualified, which I'm sure many of you w= ould be.<br> Maybe a class project for ambitious students?<br> <br> <br> If you'd like to contact Francisco Gracia directly, here's his addr= ess:<br> <br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <br> <br> Thanks in advance for help.<br> <br> Joel<br> <br> <br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---<br> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows:<br> <br> Build for Windows Store.<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev" target=3D"_blank">http://p.= sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> Visualpython-users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">Visualpython-us= [email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/visualpython-users"= target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/visualpytho= n-users</a><br> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div> --20cf307f38deee5fe904e0cbaaad-- --===============7953565198214836218== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev --===============7953565198214836218== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Visualpython-users mailing list Visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/visualpython-users --===============7953565198214836218==--