Re: Digest for [email protected] - 4 updates in 1 topic

Scott Talbert <[email protected]>
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wxPython 3 & 4 coexist just fine in Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu.  Although 
Python 2 is end of life, so wxPython 3 will be removed from those 
distributions soon (actually it has been removed from Fedora already).

On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, Daniel Presley wrote:

> My distro is PCLinuxOS originally forked from Mandrake 9 circa 2003, so it's
> RPM based and uses KDE as its primary desktop.  Currently Python 2, and
> Python 3 are installed by default., but only wxPython 3 is installed.  If
> OpenSuse has both versions of wxPython available, can both be installed, and
> coexist successfully, or does one have to install version 3, or version 4? 
> If the former I'd like to inform my distro's maintainers that the folk
> maintaining OpenSuse have figured how to get WxPython 3 and 4 to coexist.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
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> drednot57 <[email protected]>: Feb 13 02:35AM -0800
> 
> Is it possible for wxPython3 and wxPython4 to coexist in a single
> Linux
> distro?
> The creator of my distro replied on the forum about why wxPython4 is
> not
> available in the repos:
>  
> wxPython 4 is not in the repo because there is nothing that depends on
> it.
>  
> wxPython 4 requires a different python sip package which may break
> existing
> wxPython 3 and apps that depend on wxPython 3.
>  
> wxPython 4 requires a special private sip library to be built.
>  
> # wxPython upstream uses a private sip module, wx.siplib, and bundles
> the
> # siplib code. It's not possible to build this siplib because the
> source
> code
> # for sipgen is not included.
>  
> In summary wxPython 4 is a time consuming PITA to manufacture packages
> based on it at this time. I don't know how to tell you to build and
> install
> it.
>  
> Is there a way to install wxPython4 without breaking wxPython3, and
> any app
> dependencies?
> Matt Newville <[email protected]>: Feb 13 07:40AM -0600
> 
> > it.
>  
> > Is there a way to install wxPython4 without breaking wxPython3, and
> any
> > app dependencies?
>  
> Use a different Python environment that doesn't clobber system-wide
> files.
> For example, Anaconda Python is easy to install into a user's home
> folder
> or into /opt and has a wxpython4 package ready to install and use.
>  
> --Matt
> Scott Talbert <[email protected]>: Feb 13 09:13AM -0500
> 
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020, drednot57 wrote:
>  
> > on it at this time. I don't know how to tell you to build and
> install it.
>  
> > Is there a way to install wxPython4 without breaking wxPython3, and
> any app
> > dependencies?
>  
> Yes, it is possible! Debian & Ubuntu have both wxPython3 (Python 2)
> and
> wxPython4 (Python 3) right now, although wxPython3 will be removed
> soon.
> If you wanted to install a Python 2 version of wxPython4 at the same
> time
> as wxPython3, that might be more problematic, but I don't know why you
> would want that.
>  
> It is also possible to unbundle the copy of sip that wxPython4
> provides.
> I am doing that in both Debian and Fedora, although in different ways
> in
> each.
>  
> Which distribution are you using?
>  
> Scott
> johnf <[email protected]>: Feb 13 06:28AM -0800
> 
> On 2/13/20 2:35 AM, drednot57 wrote:
> > To view this discussion on the web visit
> >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/wxpython-users/54d731b9-82bc-430b-904e-bd
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>  
> At the moment that is very easy using OpenSuse 15.0 or OpenSuse 15.1. 
> The distro has both python 2.7 and python 3.6 installed.  And both
> wxPython 3.x and wxPython 4.x are available using YAST.
>  
> Johnf
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