electrical problems with Galvanic Skin Response circuit ( GSR SCL )

Steffen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.science.openeeg.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi

I'm not very experienced in electronic, but nevertheless i want to 
improve my knowledge and so i try to build an GSR/SCL-device, according 
to Stefan Jungs circuit diagram to put it together with the digital 
board of the openeeg device.
  https://sourceforge.net/p/openeeg/mailman/message/30429870/
Thanks Stefan.

  I choosed the DC skin conductance level measurement as you can see in 
attachment circuit.png.
In the original Lightstone-device (attachment Lightstone.pdf) the 
reference voltage is connected to Vin- and the amplified voltage from 
OP2336 is connected to vin+ of the AD623. In Stefan's circuit this is 
reversed, and since the device didn't work i changed the pins like in 
the original circuit. Was this a bad idea?

Now i've got 3 problems:

1.
According to the AD623 datasheet the 1k resistor R25 between pin1 and 
pin8 makes a gain of 101 (calculation at attachment circuit.png).
Isn't it to much gain?
Supposing a Skin-resistance of 500k i got a V0 of 0,72V.
So the difference will be: V0-Vref = 0,72V-0,5V=0,22V.
V1=0,22V*Gain = 0,22V*101 = 22,22V
22,22 V is to much for the Atmel AVR ad-converter.
Where is my fallacy?


2.
R25=25k --> Gain=5
I get 1,8V, 50Hz mains hum when i'm connected with electrodes at my 
fingers to the circuit.(attachment hum.jpg)
When i connect a 500k resistor at the input there is no hum available.
Is this normal and do i have to build a band-stop filter somewhere in 
the circuit or could something other be wrong with it?
I dont understand why there is absolutely no milliVolt of hum when i 
connect a resistor.


3.
A bit confused, i decided to make some measurements with a resistor 
instead of my skin (attachment measurement.png).
So i simulated  the skin-resistance Rscl with a potentiometer from 100k 
to 900k.

To get an idea what is wrong with the gain of the AD623 i made three 
measurements with Rg=1k, 10k and 50k.
The values for V0 are fine and match to the theoretical formulas for OPamps.
At first appearance V1 looks good, but if i calculate the gain with 
V1/(V0-Vref), the gain changes at a wide range.
Shouldn't the gain be constant dependent on the value of R25 or is this 
an override-effect, because the output voltage v1 should be much higher 
in some cases.
To see how big the gain theoretically  schould be, i calculated the gain 
in the last row with the formula from the AD623 datasheet.
Gain = (100k/R25)+1.
Only in some cases the theoretical gain and the calculated gain from the 
measurements are equal.


Many questions, i hope you understand my english and can give me some hints.
Thanks

Steffen

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