Re: electrical problems with Galvanic Skin Response circuit ( GSR SCL )
Stefan Jung <[email protected]>
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Steffen, Rail-to-rail opamps cannot reach quite to the rails, I would have expected perhaps within 100mV from the top rail, but I checked a few datasheets and some devices come surprisingly close, really only a few mV. The AD623 is supposed to be a rail-to-rail INA, but I see it performs rather poorly in reaching the rails, the datasheet gives a worst case of 500mV below Vcc. Your opamp output swing up to 4.7V sounds a bit low, but I would not worry too much about that. It might be attributable to measuring errors, rounding off errors or lower than anticipated VCC. For instance, the LM78xx type of regulators have a poor output voltage tolerance. You might use a LM7805 which you assume gives VCC = 5.00V and if you measure, find the voltage only to be 4.82V. Obviously your opamp would then swing proportionally lower than what you could expect from a true 5.0V supply. I can't think of anything that could have your INA misbehave in the way you describe. Do you have decent decoupling capacitors over your opamp and INA? If you don't, there is always a possibility that a component might oscillate at a high frequency. A newbie might possibly miss this even when using a scope. If an IC oscillates then you typically get these sort of non-sense measurements. Perhaps you should try to replace the INA with a new part. Ideally from a different batch. The incidence of grey, copycat, etc. components is ever present. At work we had an incidence where an IC just didn't work. After desoldering from the circuit, it was found that all pins where open-circuit. The IC was cut open and it was established that it didn't have the actual chip inside, it was simply an empty plastic package (!) Thank you China-man. I once received some Texas Instruments INA128 instrumentation amplifiers and each and every one in the packet of about 20 was faulty. With the INA128s they where obviously faulty but sometimes components seem to work - sort off. So you start suspecting all sorts of other components and debugging becomes a nightmare. Electrostatic damage due to incorrect component handling is also a possibility. That too often means not total component failure but often a limping component that just doesn't seem to perform right. In mixed signal circuitry it is common to call the supply rail for the analog circuitry 5VA, the A meaning analog. The microprocessor on the same PCB might also run from 5V and then is often run from a separate supply to minimise noise. So the micro's supply you would then call 5VD, the D indicating that it is for the digital sub-system. In a similar vain one often calls a supply +VHT for some high voltage line (HT = high tension) or you might give a label such as 5VRF for your RF tuner module supply, 3V3_LED for your display supply, etc. The ISO is indeed an electrically isolated line from a DC/DC converter. Regards Stefan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech