Re: nonchemical foodgrade eeg conductive gels?

Enrico Calore <[email protected]> Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:37:05 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.science.openeeg.general
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On 10/18/2014 03:01 PM, Tobias Gogolin wrote:
> I suppose we could say Enrico, that there are different levels of 
> survival some of us are willing to tolerate... Some of us may
> believe in non contamination with potentially bioaccumulatable
> plastics!

You used the right word indeed... the word "believe"... I do not think
this to be the right place to speak about "beliefs"; if you have some
clinical studies demonstrating the potential risk for human health for
such "contamination" your are speaking about, I'll be glad to read it.

> Some people eat these plastics (cooking regularly converts living
> food into plastic - no need to talk about intentionally invented 
> stabilizers and conservatives etc.). Some don't even accept
> strange foreign chemicals in soaps and shampoos onto their skin! 
> Some may never know the difference choice can make!

How you judge if something is a "strange foreign chemical" or a
"familiar indigenous chemical"? Accordingly to how its name sounds? To
the opinion of an healer? To what someone wrote in his blog?

> I guess I will just try pure aloe first! Salt may be bad for the 
> contacts right?

I am not aware of any studies about conductivity of pure aloe and
actually I do not see any reason to use exactly that... apart from the
fact that it is quite trendy to use it to do everything in various
pseudo-scientific communities.

Despite of this, some kind of electrodes are designed to be used with
saline solution (instead of conductive gels), as the ones used for the
Emotiv EPOC (http://emotiv.wikia.com/wiki/Emotiv_EPOC). You may try to
build your own electrodes following this approach.
Anyhow, although I do not own this device, I have heard that
electrodes do not last a lot, since as you correctly pointed out,
saline solutions tend to corrode some of the electrode components.

Just a warning: keep in mind that what they sell as ordinary salt is
actually more than 90% "Sodium Chloride", which is an ionic compound
with the chemical formula NaCl, representing equal proportions of
sodium and chlorine... so I do not know if it may be consider as a
"strange foreign chemical" or not... moreover you commonly dissolve it
in another chemical commonly known as "Dihydrogen Monoxide" which may
be considered poisonous as well: http://www.dhmo.org/

> Anyhow I do find it entertaining to discuss levels of survival with
> those tied up in the matrix ;) So keep it coming!

Probably most of the people in this list do not... so I beg their
pardon... if you want to keep speaking about this we could go on with
private mails... anyhow in my opinion, you are just tying up to a
slightly more unconventional matrix. ;)


Bye,

Enrico



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