Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available

Evan Rempel <[email protected]> Tue, 25 Nov 2025 14:45:46 +0000
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Alternatively, you can exclude this requirement from the generated Requires=
 list by adding this to the spec file

%global __requires_exclude %{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}^libu=
nwind$

Andthen add a weak dependency so that the package is installed only if it i=
s available.

>From the page  (Weak dependencies)
https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/dependencies.html

Recommends: libunwind

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Subject: [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available

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https://github.com/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/pull/5569 turned off stack dump usag=
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You can test it using the output of the Nightly release, e.g. https://ose-r=
epo.syslog-ng.com/yum/nightly/rhel-8/x86_64/

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Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann
https://memyselfandi.hu
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On Nov 25, 2025 at 00:00 +0100, Evan Rempel <[email protected]>, wrote:
Just wondering if there has been any resolution or recommendation on the de=
pendency of libunwind in the base syslog-ng package?

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Subject: [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available

Sorry for the inconvenience!

We will discuss this and let you know the result next week.

Thanks for reporting the problem.

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Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann

On Oct 29, 2025 at 16:16 +0100, Evan Rempel <[email protected]>, wrote:
That's good information. Referring to the current RPM from /ose-repo.syslog=
-ng.com/yum/
I am no longer able to install the base syslog-ng package on a vanilla RHEL=
8/9 system.
This base package now has a dependency on libunwind that has never been the=
re before. That's why I think this is an oversight in the build of this lat=
est RPM.

I understand that many of the additional RPMs for syslog-ng require the EPE=
L repository. Until now this was not a requirement of the base syslog-ng pa=
ckage.


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Evan

________________________________
From: Hofi <[email protected]>
Sent: October 29, 2025 8:02 AM
To: Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list <[email protected].=
hu>
Subject: [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available

Libunwind is used to provide better crash reporting (and is also very helpf=
ul in debug builds).

It can be disabled using the `--disable-stackdump` or `-DENABLE_STACKDUMP=
=3DOFF` configure option.

The default state of this option is now `AUTO`, which checks for the presen=
ce of the libunwind library and automatically enables the stackdump feature=
 if it is available.



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<div>Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann</div>
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<div name=3D"x_messageReplySection">On Nov 25, 2025 at 00:00 +0100, Evan Re=
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<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Hofi &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;October 29, 2025 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b>&nbsp;Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list &lt;syslog-ng=
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<div style=3D"direction:ltr">Sorry for the inconvenience!<br>
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We will discuss this and let you know the result next week.<br>
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Thanks for reporting the problem.</div>
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That's good information. Referring to the current RPM from /ose-repo.syslog=
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I am no longer able to install the base syslog-ng package on a vanilla RHEL=
8/9 system.</div>
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This base package now has a dependency on libunwind that has never been the=
re before. That's why I think this is an oversight in the build of this lat=
est RPM.</div>
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I understand that many of the additional RPMs for syslog-ng require the EPE=
L repository. Until now this was not a requirement of the base syslog-ng pa=
ckage.<br>
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<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Hofi &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;October 29, 2025 8:02 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;[syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now avai=
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<div style=3D"direction:ltr">Libunwind is used to provide better crash repo=
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<div style=3D"direction:ltr">Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann</div>
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