Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available
Balazs Scheidler <[email protected]> Wed, 26 Nov 2025 11:59:15 +0100
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--===============3712810709318755753== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000027f8f206447d4ab3" --00000000000027f8f206447d4ab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it is compiled in, libsyslog-ng.so will require it at runtime, so it's either in or out, or one has to compile it twice. On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 3:45=E2=80=AFPM Evan Rempel <[email protected]> wrote= : > Alternatively, you can exclude this requirement from the generated > Requires list by adding this to the spec file > > %global __requires_exclude > %{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}^libunwind$ > > Andthen add a weak dependency so that the package is installed only if it > is available. > > >From the page (Weak dependencies) > https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/dependencies.html > > Recommends: libunwind > > -- > Evan > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hofi <[email protected]> > *Sent:* November 25, 2025 6:16 AM > *To:* Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available > > You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn why this is > important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> > https://github.com/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/pull/5569 turned off stack dump > usage temporarily in the package generation. > > You can test it using the output of the Nightly release, e.g. > https://ose-repo.syslog-ng.com/yum/nightly/rhel-8/x86_64/ > > ----------------------------------- > Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann > https://memyselfandi.hu > https://mantisliagames.com > On Nov 25, 2025 at 00:00 +0100, Evan Rempel <[email protected]>, wrote: > > Just wondering if there has been any resolution or recommendation on the > dependency of libunwind in the base syslog-ng package? > > -- > Evan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hofi <[email protected]> > *Sent:* October 29, 2025 8:21 AM > *To:* Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available > > Sorry for the inconvenience! > > We will discuss this and let you know the result next week. > > Thanks for reporting the problem. > > ----------------------------------- > Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann > > On Oct 29, 2025 at 16:16 +0100, Evan Rempel <[email protected]>, wrote: > > That's good information. Referring to the current RPM from / > ose-repo.syslog-ng.com/yum/ > I am no longer able to install the base syslog-ng package on a vanilla > RHEL8/9 system. > This base package now has a dependency on libunwind that has never been > there before. That's why I think this is an oversight in the build of thi= s > latest RPM. > > I understand that many of the additional RPMs for syslog-ng require the > EPEL repository. Until now this was not a requirement of the base syslog-= ng > package. > > > -- > Evan > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hofi <[email protected]> > *Sent:* October 29, 2025 8:02 AM > *To:* Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available > > Libunwind is used to provide better crash reporting (and is also very > helpful in debug builds). > > It can be disabled using the `--disable-stackdump` or > `-DENABLE_STACKDUMP=3DOFF` configure option. > > The default state of this option is now `AUTO`, which checks for the > presence of the libunwind library and automatically enables the stackdump > feature if it is available. > > > > ----------------------------------- > Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann > > > _________________________________________________________________________= _____ > Member info: %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s > Documentation: > http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?product=3Dsyslog-ng > FAQ: http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq > > > _________________________________________________________________________= _____ > Member info: %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s > Documentation: > http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?product=3Dsyslog-ng > FAQ: http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq > > --=20 Bazsi --00000000000027f8f206447d4ab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If it is compiled in, libsyslog-ng.so will require it= at runtime, so it's either in or out, or one has to compile it twice.<= /div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contain= er"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 3:45=E2= =80=AFPM Evan Rempel <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= </a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:= 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">= <div class=3D"msg1009324405919586153"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Alternatively, you can exclude this requirement from the generated Requires= list by adding this to the spec file</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> %global __requires_exclude %{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}^libu= nwind$</div> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153Signature"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Andthen add a weak dependency so that the package is installed only if it i= s available.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> >From the page=C2=A0 (Weak dependencies)</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <a href=3D"https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/dependencie= s.html" target=3D"_blank">https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/man= ual/dependencies.html</a></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Recommends: libunwind</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> --</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> Evan</div> </div> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153appendonsend"></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca= libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> = Hofi <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">hofione@gma= il.com</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> November 25, 2025 6:16 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list <<a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= alabit.hu</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> [syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now available= </font> <div>=C2=A0</div> </div> <div> <table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100%" alig= n=3D"left" style=3D"background:revert;color:revert;direction:revert;font-si= ze:revert;height:revert;letter-spacing:revert;line-height:revert;margin:rev= ert;opacity:revert;outline:revert;overflow:revert;padding:revert;text-align= :revert;text-indent:revert;text-orientation:revert;text-overflow:revert;tex= t-transform:revert;vertical-align:revert;white-space:revert;word-break:reve= rt;word-spacing:revert;writing-mode:revert;zoom:revert;border:0px;display:t= able;width:100%;table-layout:fixed;float:none;border-spacing:0px"> <tbody 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orientation:revert;text-overflow:revert;text-transform:revert;vertical-alig= n:revert;white-space:revert;width:revert;word-break:revert;word-spacing:rev= ert;writing-mode:revert;zoom:revert"> You don't often get email from <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar= get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>. <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/LearnAboutS= enderIdentification" style=3D"background:revert;color:revert;direction:reve= rt;display:revert;font-size:revert;opacity:revert" target=3D"_blank"> Learn why this is important</a> </div> </td> <td valign=3D"middle" align=3D"left" width=3D"75px" bgcolor=3D"#EAEAEA" cel= lpadding=3D"7px 5px 7px 5px" color=3D"#212121" style=3D"background-position= :revert;background-repeat:revert;background-image:revert;background-size:re= vert;background-origin:revert;background-clip:revert;border:revert;directio= n:revert;display:revert;height:revert;letter-spacing:revert;line-height:rev= ert;margin:revert;opacity:revert;outline:revert;overflow:revert;table-layou= t:revert;text-indent:revert;text-orientation:revert;text-overflow:revert;te= xt-transform:revert;vertical-align:revert;white-space:revert;word-break:rev= ert;word-spacing:revert;writing-mode:revert;zoom:revert;width:75px;backgrou= nd-color:rgb(234,234,234);padding:7px 5px;font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,Se= goe UI,Segoe WP,Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:normal;c= olor:rgb(33,33,33);text-align:left"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div> <div name=3D"x_messageBodySection"> <div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://github.com/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/pull/55= 69" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/pull/5569</a> = turned off stack dump usage temporarily in the package generation.<br> <br> You can test it using the output of the Nightly release, e.g.=C2=A0<a href= =3D"https://ose-repo.syslog-ng.com/yum/nightly/rhel-8/x86_64/" target=3D"_b= lank">https://ose-repo.syslog-ng.com/yum/nightly/rhel-8/x86_64/</a>=C2=A0</= div> </div> <div name=3D"x_messageSignatureSection"><br> <div dir=3D"auto">-----------------------------------<br> <div>Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann</div> <div><a href=3D"https://memyselfandi.hu" target=3D"_blank">https://memyself= andi.hu</a></div> <div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://mantisliagames.com" target=3D"_blank">= https://mantisliagames.com</a></div> </div> </div> <div name=3D"x_messageReplySection">On Nov 25, 2025 at 00:00 +0100, Evan Re= mpel <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">erempel@uvic.= ca</a>>, wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"border-left:thin solid grey;margin:5px;p= adding-left:10px"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Just wondering if there has been any resolution or recommendation on the de= pendency of libunwind in the base syslog-ng package?</div> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153x_Signature"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> --</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> Evan</div> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153x_divRplyFwdMsg"> <div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;c= olor:rgb(0,0,0)"> <b>From:</b>=C2=A0Hofi <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b>=C2=A0October 29, 2025 8:21 AM<br> <b>To:</b>=C2=A0Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list <<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">syslog-ng@li= sts.balabit.hu</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b>=C2=A0[syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now avai= lable</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">=C2=A0</div> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Sorry for the inconvenience!<br> <br> We will discuss this and let you know the result next week.<br> <br> Thanks for reporting the problem.</div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">-----------------------------------</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">On Oct 29, 2025 at 16:16 +0100, Evan Rempel &l= t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&= gt;, wrote:</div> <blockquote style=3D"margin:5px;padding-left:10px;border-left:thin solid gr= ey"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> That's good information. Referring to the current RPM from /<a href=3D"= http://ose-repo.syslog-ng.com/yum/" target=3D"_blank">ose-repo.syslog-ng.co= m/yum/</a></div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> I am no longer able to install the base syslog-ng package on a vanilla RHEL= 8/9 system.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> This base package now has a dependency on libunwind that has never been the= re before. That's why I think this is an oversight in the build of this= latest RPM.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> I understand that many of the additional RPMs for syslog-ng require the EPE= L repository. Until now this was not a requirement of the base syslog-ng pa= ckage.<br> <br> </div> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153x_x_Signature"> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> --</div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> Evan</div> </div> <div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Cali= bri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> <br> </div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%"> <div id=3D"m_1009324405919586153x_x_divRplyFwdMsg"> <div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;c= olor:rgb(0,0,0)"> <b>From:</b>=C2=A0Hofi <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b>=C2=A0October 29, 2025 8:02 AM<br> <b>To:</b>=C2=A0Syslog-ng users' and developers' mailing list <<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">syslog-ng@li= sts.balabit.hu</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b>=C2=A0[syslog-ng]Re: Version 4.10.2 of syslog-ng is now avai= lable</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">=C2=A0</div> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Libunwind is used to provide better crash repo= rting (and is also very helpful in debug builds).</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><br> It can be disabled using the `--disable-stackdump` or `-DENABLE_STACKDUMP= =3DOFF` configure option.<br> <br> The default state of this option is now `AUTO`, which checks for the presen= ce of the libunwind library and automatically enables the stackdump feature= if it is available.</div> <div><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><br> </div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">-----------------------------------</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr">Hofi - Istvan Hoffmann</div> <div style=3D"direction:ltr"><br> </div> </blockquote> ___________________________________________________________________________= ___<br> Member info: %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s<br> Documentation: <a href=3D"http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?pro= duct=3Dsyslog-ng" target=3D"_blank">http://www.balabit.com/support/document= ation/?product=3Dsyslog-ng</a><br> FAQ: <a href=3D"http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq" target=3D"_blank= ">http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> ___________________________________________________________________________= ___<br> Member info: %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s<br> Documentation: <a href=3D"http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?pro= duct=3Dsyslog-ng" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.balabit.c= om/support/documentation/?product=3Dsyslog-ng</a><br> FAQ: <a href=3D"http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq" rel=3D"noreferre= r" target=3D"_blank">http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq</a><br> <br> </div></blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gm= ail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu= re">Bazsi</div> --00000000000027f8f206447d4ab3-- --===============3712810709318755753== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ______________________________________________________________________________ Member info: %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s Documentation: http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?product=syslog-ng FAQ: http://www.balabit.com/wiki/syslog-ng-faq --===============3712810709318755753==--