Re: Will Verse on premises be available on IBM i? If so, when?

Chris Whisonant <[email protected]>
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Rob,

Domino is not running in containers. The only IBM collaboration product
that will be is version 6.0 of IBM Connections (referred to as Connections
PINK). This will not affect anything that you are doing with the Domino
applications on IBM i.

That being said, the original concern with this thread was running Verse on
Premises (VoP) on IBM i. The current plan is that IBM will only support
platforms that can run Docker Containers for VoP, so this means that IBM i
and AIX are not supported yet for VoP. At whatever point either Docker
and/or VoP become supported on IBM i, it should still not affect your
Domino applications as those external database connections are just network
connection points which would still be available in a container.

I believe that, for now, we can just consider VoP another thing that IBM
didn't initially release on IBM i (such as with Traveler and IBM
Connections). Perhaps further customer requests will help them see that it
is needed, but with VoP there are some other moving parts that are outside
of the core Domino code and would need to be ported to run on platforms
which, to be honest, are not used by the vast majority of their customers.

Hope this helps,
Chris


On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Rob Berendt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you.  Perhaps I wasn't clear.  A lot of our web development is
> Domino based.  In that Domino it talks to our IBM DB2 based ERP software.
> Will that still work the same?  The connections are still coded the same?
> If it helps, we often do not run the DB2 on the same lpar as the Domino
> server.  We do this because of Mimix switches and stuff.
>
>
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> From:   "Shuang Hong Wang" <[email protected]>
> To:     [email protected]
> Cc:     [email protected]
> Date:   06/01/2017 02:22 AM
> Subject:        Re: Will Verse on premises be available on IBM i? If so,
> when?
> Sent by:        "Domino400" <[email protected]>
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>
>    Not knowing much details on the Connections 'PINK' project, but as it
> was
>    said at Connect, it will be built on top of Containers, the Database(no
>    matter relational DB or document based DB such as mangoDB) should be
>    within container too, and the backup should be simply backing up the
> data
>    directories.
>    Containers should be a much easier way to deploy and maintain
> Connections.
>
>    Best Regards
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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>      ----- Original message -----
>      From: Rob Berendt <[email protected]>
>      Sent by: "Domino400" <[email protected]>
>      To: "Lotus Domino on the IBM i \(AS/400 and iSeries\)"
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>      Cc:
>      Subject: Re: Will Verse on premises be available on IBM i? If so,
> when?
>      Date: Fri, May 26, 2017 9:26 PM
>
>      So, if this all runs in these "containers" does it still talk to
> stuff
>      outside of the container?  Meaning, to talk to the DB on the same
> lpar
>      you
>      end up treating it like it's on some other database just as if your
>      container application was on a different lpar?  Sort of like two VM's
>      are
>      different clients or servers?  And the DB within the container must
> be a
>      container type database, instead of DB2?
>      And I also suppose you would lose all the subsystems, jobs and other
>      work
>      management stuff used by the current Domino on IBM i anyway, right?
>      And would the save/restore be as different as trying to save an
>      individual
>      object from a guested lpar from the hosted lpar (not going to
> happen)?
>
>      "If" you lose all this then I guess what would be the point of
> keeping
>      it
>      on IBM i?
>
>      "If" being the key point...
>
>      Rob Berendt
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