Re: PCP design and implementations

"Nathan Scott" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.sysutils.pcp
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Marko,

----- Original Message -----
> [...]
> In the 90s pmview certainly made sense but, quite frankly, I'd rather
> hope nobody invests time in OS dependent,

FWIW it works for all platforms PCP works on.  We see many people in the
Red Hat customer support environment (for example) using pmchart, as it
far outstrips the functionality of the web tools, is lightweight, and is
easier to use.  pmview is in a similar boat - for some users, very useful.

> non-web based visualization
> alternatives in 2010s - downloading, installing, and configuring them is
> cumbersome and may not even be possible in certain environments. Also,

Sure - but its viable in many environments with very little effort, and
there is no web alternative today.  *shrug*

> if the visualization tool doesn't work with mobile / handheld devices
> then it's completely out of the question for many organizations. And

Yep, but that's not really the target user base here, with an existing
tool that is not far from fully functional.

> even if these were not issues, then accessing and sharing visualizations
> over web is immensely more effective in global teams span over several
> locations and continents than asking each team member to download /
> install / configure / etc an application on their systems (if even
> available for their operating system of choice).

No doubt about it.

However, the one does not preclude the other.  Some people like to hack on
non-browser-based code, like python, C or C++ - for those folk, its a nice
little project that will certainly see some use.  No need to be negative
toward such people, we can encourage both groups involvement.

So I encourage you to jump in and hack on your preferred browser solution,
but don't discourage people who might want to take the small step towards
a working pmview as well.  We need folk with these skills to maintain the
core of PCP, which funnily enough, is platform-dependent code that doesn't
run in a browser.

cheers.

--
Nathan

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